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Isn't the LaTeX stylesheet for your thesis usually dictated by your university? It was for me at least..

by ginko 11y ago

imrehg 11y ago
Not necessarily, wasn't for me (Oxford, just for specificity). Some universities do mandate, but they do that in .doc format for example. Tell them you write your thesis in LaTeX and often it can be "oh, okay...."
wodenokoto 11y ago
No, many universities only require a front page, the rest is up to you. My university doesn't even provide this front page in LaTex ...
- tormeh 11y ago
  Mine autogenerates the front and just inserts it at the start of my pdf file.
dagw 11y ago
My university had a set of stylesheets (.doc, LaTeX and I think InDesign) and set of rules you had to follow if you wanted to make your own stylesheet.
ccannon 11y ago
You're right, most universities dictate what style you should use. However, if you wanted to publish your thesis for your own personal use it might be nice to port it to this clean thesis format.
fdej 11y ago
In my case, I only had to use a predetermined stylesheet for the title page. I've heard of one university (there must be others) where there's a thick compendium that specifies exactly which font to use where on each page, what spacings and margins to use, how to format the table of contents, etc. Not actually a LaTeX stylesheet you can use, but a list of rules that you manually have to make sure your thesis conforms with. Of course, the rules were written with MS Word in mind, but math/CS/science people who need to use LaTeX have to replicate the rules in detail. Of course, there's a person employed by the university to check that your submitted thesis exactly conforms with the rules, or else it will be rejected. The person who told me this might have embellished the story, but sadly it sounds all too plausible to me.
- analog31 11y ago
  20+ years ago, my university's formatting rules were pre-computer-age, and the asked a guy in the IT department (a friend of mine) to create e a new set of rules. The new rules were entirely based on MS Word.
mrweasel 11y ago
I think ours was just a style one from ACM. IT made it easy to publish papers because the format was already correct.
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Steuard 11y ago
At the University of Chicago, the thesis office didn't give any indication that they'd ever heard of LaTeX. But they did hand us a long list of formatting requirements (precise margins, contents format, lots of other details) and it was clear that any deviation from those would result in your thesis being handed right back to you. Fortunately, there was a LaTeX style file that had been handed around the physics department for years that generations of grad students had tuned to meet the requirements. Doing my part, I tweaked it a bit to handle some special cases that came up in my thesis (and, I think, to clean up the code in one or two places) and passed it on to the next generation. (I shudder to think of how many forks there must have been; I saw at least two or three while I was preparing my version. Maybe someone has put a canonical version on GitHub by now: nothing of the sort was really on our radar back then.)
- carlob 11y ago
  Put on github instead of passing it down? Might not work for non-comp-sci students that use LaTeX, but are not familiar with git.
  - Steuard 11y ago
    True. I started using Subversion and then Mercurial for writing scientific papers during grad school (a distributed VCS was handy when editing on multiple machines), but it never seemed worth the effort to teach my collaborators how to use them from scratch.
    - carlob 11y ago
      There are lot of people who use Dropbox for its version control features, albeit limited they might be. It might not scale well with many users and branching, but it's probably good enough for two researchers editing the same paper on two different machines in the same office. There might be a market for a good automated multi user version control (no programming required)…
- Serow225 11y ago
  Same exact story here, I even whipped up a quick web page[1] to share the modifications I made to the stylesheet with other students. Amazingly it looks like the site is still up after 10+ years so kudos to the webmasters, with the files still downloadable and links still alive; looking back on the page is a hilarious nostalgia trip for me, it was written by hand and has a hit counter (of course): [1] http://homepage.usask.ca/~ebs642/ http://homepage.usask.ca/~ebs642/
thearn4 11y ago
Yep. For me, the PhD LaTeX stylesheet was a file passed down and updated from graduate student to graduate student for who knows how many decades in my dept.
eli_gottlieb 11y ago
It's usually passed down from student to student through departments. Which reminds me: I never put my own patches to the Technion thesis template on a public platform. I need to do that!
baby 11y ago
Not at the University of Bordeaux :D
tonyarkles 11y ago
Me too. In the comp sci department, at least, one of the professors made a compliant style a long time ago and it continues to get passed around. I'm defending on Thursday and so far there haven't been any real complaints other than a requirement that my figure captions be at the top of the figure instead of the bottom. Not a biggie.

Isn't the LaTeX stylesheet for your thesis usually dictated by your university? It was for me at least..

by ginko 11y ago

Isn't the LaTeX stylesheet for your thesis usually dictated by your university? It was for me at least..

Not necessarily, wasn't for me (Oxford, just for specificity). Some universities do mandate, but they do that in .doc format for example. Tell them you write your thesis in LaTeX and often it can be "oh, okay...."

wodenokoto 11y ago

No, many universities only require a front page, the rest is up to you. My university doesn't even provide this front page in LaTex ...

tormeh 11y ago
Mine autogenerates the front and just inserts it at the start of my pdf file.

dagw 11y ago

My university had a set of stylesheets (.doc, LaTeX and I think InDesign) and set of rules you had to follow if you wanted to make your own stylesheet.

ccannon 11y ago

You're right, most universities dictate what style you should use. However, if you wanted to publish your thesis for your own personal use it might be nice to port it to this clean thesis format.

fdej 11y ago

In my case, I only had to use a predetermined stylesheet for the title page. I've heard of one university (there must be others) where there's a thick compendium that specifies exactly which font to use where on each page, what spacings and margins to use, how to format the table of contents, etc. Not actually a LaTeX stylesheet you can use, but a list of rules that you manually have to make sure your thesis conforms with. Of course, the rules were written with MS Word in mind, but math/CS/science people who need to use LaTeX have to replicate the rules in detail. Of course, there's a person employed by the university to check that your submitted thesis exactly conforms with the rules, or else it will be rejected. The person who told me this might have embellished the story, but sadly it sounds all too plausible to me.

analog31 11y ago
20+ years ago, my university's formatting rules were pre-computer-age, and the asked a guy in the IT department (a friend of mine) to create e a new set of rules. The new rules were entirely based on MS Word.

mrweasel 11y ago

I think ours was just a style one from ACM. IT made it easy to publish papers because the format was already correct.

deleted 11y ago

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Steuard 11y ago

At the University of Chicago, the thesis office didn't give any indication that they'd ever heard of LaTeX. But they did hand us a long list of formatting requirements (precise margins, contents format, lots of other details) and it was clear that any deviation from those would result in your thesis being handed right back to you. Fortunately, there was a LaTeX style file that had been handed around the physics department for years that generations of grad students had tuned to meet the requirements. Doing my part, I tweaked it a bit to handle some special cases that came up in my thesis (and, I think, to clean up the code in one or two places) and passed it on to the next generation. (I shudder to think of how many forks there must have been; I saw at least two or three while I was preparing my version. Maybe someone has put a canonical version on GitHub by now: nothing of the sort was really on our radar back then.)

carlob 11y ago
Put on github instead of passing it down? Might not work for non-comp-sci students that use LaTeX, but are not familiar with git.
- Steuard 11y ago
  True. I started using Subversion and then Mercurial for writing scientific papers during grad school (a distributed VCS was handy when editing on multiple machines), but it never seemed worth the effort to teach my collaborators how to use them from scratch.
  - carlob 11y ago
    There are lot of people who use Dropbox for its version control features, albeit limited they might be. It might not scale well with many users and branching, but it's probably good enough for two researchers editing the same paper on two different machines in the same office. There might be a market for a good automated multi user version control (no programming required)…
Serow225 11y ago
Same exact story here, I even whipped up a quick web page[1] to share the modifications I made to the stylesheet with other students. Amazingly it looks like the site is still up after 10+ years so kudos to the webmasters, with the files still downloadable and links still alive; looking back on the page is a hilarious nostalgia trip for me, it was written by hand and has a hit counter (of course): [1] http://homepage.usask.ca/~ebs642/ http://homepage.usask.ca/~ebs642/

thearn4 11y ago

Yep. For me, the PhD LaTeX stylesheet was a file passed down and updated from graduate student to graduate student for who knows how many decades in my dept.

eli_gottlieb 11y ago

It's usually passed down from student to student through departments. Which reminds me: I never put my own patches to the Technion thesis template on a public platform. I need to do that!

baby 11y ago

Not at the University of Bordeaux :D

tonyarkles 11y ago

Me too. In the comp sci department, at least, one of the professors made a compliant style a long time ago and it continues to get passed around. I'm defending on Thursday and so far there haven't been any real complaints other than a requirement that my figure captions be at the top of the figure instead of the bottom. Not a biggie.