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Meh...offshore VPS with Squid3. And that's just the easy way of getting around anything - it astounds me that the government seems to think everyone is as shor

Meh...offshore VPS with Squid3. And that's just the easy way of getting around anything - it astounds me that the government seems to think everyone is as shortsighted as they are.

nness 11y ago
The Government is expected to include VPN's used explicitly for evasion of anti-piracy measures in this law. The Government even tried debating the definition of VPN, since that's obviously where a lot of people are headed with this recent change. Not to mention, VPN's are essential for Australian business and the Government can't blanket ban everything since A. its hard to even define what a VPN is, and B. even harder to capture and block that traffic.
- JupiterMoon 11y ago
  To these legislators (and their backers) this is not a tricky question. They will (eventually) (attempt to) simply block all foreign VPN providers via DNS or IP and furthermore make using one illegal for private use. This will not affect BigCorp because they would be using VPN to connect to their own servers which would not be on the block list.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    And that’s when you rent the 4$/year VPS from 1und1.de and use it as SOCKS proxy
    - JupiterMoon 11y ago
      In the eyes of the administrator managing the block list (not sure what judicial oversight is planned but going on the UK's approach it will be minimal or non-existent) this would look like a dodgy foreign company and it would simply go on the block list....
      - meric 11y ago
        What about ssh proxy to Amazon EC2? Don't think they can block that unless they want to shut down half the Australian tech industry...
        JupiterMoon 11y ago
        You lost them at ssh... For now...
        kuschku 11y ago
        You know that 1und1.de is a huge hosting provider in mainland europe? And that the SOCKS proxy I suggested would run through SSH? It’s literally the same suggestion as using EC2, just with a cheaper example
        JupiterMoon 11y ago
        How many major Australian companies use 1und1.de cloud services? EDIT Of these how many have the clout to have the block lifted when it happens? EDIT For the record I think that these laws are utterly stupid and totally unenforceable. (I say this as someone that pays for their content.) However, the legislators will not be put off by mere technical impossibility.

Meh...offshore VPS with Squid3. And that's just the easy way of getting around anything - it astounds me that the government seems to think everyone is as shortsighted as they are.

nness 11y ago

The Government is expected to include VPN's used explicitly for evasion of anti-piracy measures in this law. The Government even tried debating the definition of VPN, since that's obviously where a lot of people are headed with this recent change. Not to mention, VPN's are essential for Australian business and the Government can't blanket ban everything since A. its hard to even define what a VPN is, and B. even harder to capture and block that traffic.

JupiterMoon 11y ago
To these legislators (and their backers) this is not a tricky question. They will (eventually) (attempt to) simply block all foreign VPN providers via DNS or IP and furthermore make using one illegal for private use. This will not affect BigCorp because they would be using VPN to connect to their own servers which would not be on the block list.
- kuschku 11y ago
  And that’s when you rent the 4$/year VPS from 1und1.de and use it as SOCKS proxy
  - JupiterMoon 11y ago
    In the eyes of the administrator managing the block list (not sure what judicial oversight is planned but going on the UK's approach it will be minimal or non-existent) this would look like a dodgy foreign company and it would simply go on the block list....
    - meric 11y ago
      What about ssh proxy to Amazon EC2? Don't think they can block that unless they want to shut down half the Australian tech industry...
      - JupiterMoon 11y ago
        You lost them at ssh... For now...
        kuschku 11y ago
        You know that 1und1.de is a huge hosting provider in mainland europe? And that the SOCKS proxy I suggested would run through SSH? It’s literally the same suggestion as using EC2, just with a cheaper example
        JupiterMoon 11y ago
        How many major Australian companies use 1und1.de cloud services? EDIT Of these how many have the clout to have the block lifted when it happens? EDIT For the record I think that these laws are utterly stupid and totally unenforceable. (I say this as someone that pays for their content.) However, the legislators will not be put off by mere technical impossibility.