> Yes, just for clarification, that was my point. OK cool. Then my response is simply that we took a whole lot of community feedback, as always, over a span of

> Yes, just for clarification, that was my point. OK cool. Then my response is simply that we took a whole lot of community feedback, as always, over a span of years, both on the issue tracker and on our Gitter (previously IRC) channel. People with a wide range of programming experience contributed to this discussion. No, I did not look closely at Scala's constructors. I did look at some other languages which are a bigger influence on me, some of which do things very differently to Ceylon. > You're certainly having to defend yourself a lot in the other comments, so I don't want to continue that. Thanks :-/