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Speaking of containers I've always wondered if running a GUI app (something like a kiosk) would work in these sorts of containers? I know you can do it hackily

Speaking of containers I've always wondered if running a GUI app (something like a kiosk) would work in these sorts of containers? I know you can do it hackily in docker by playing with X and xfvb. But does any of them natively (easily) support it?

tlrobinson 11y ago
Yes, you basically just have to mount the X11 socket as a volume: https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desk...
- blueblizzy 11y ago
  Over on the Windows side, there is also another container technology called Glassware made by Sphere 3D. Focus on productivity containers/end user apps. http://www.sphere3d.com/ http://www.sphere3d.com/
  - dingdingdang 11y ago
    The buzztalk is strong with them: "The V3 Optimized Desktop Allocation (ODA) technology is the first and only technology that allows for hyper-converged appliances to be delivered in a distributed fashion." Sometimes I wonder about the strength of this sort of sales behaviour but ultimately I guess they make their own ecosystem by requiring specialized techies to translate even the sales pitch - promoting a sort of "it has got to be super-hyper-vigilantly efficient if I can't even understand what its good for, plus I can wash my hands of it professionally if it fails because anyone in their right mind can see the necessity of having someone else evaluate the usefulness of a system this incomprehensible"-response from certain managers.
- eropple 11y ago
  As discussed in the HN thread, this is dangerous and counterproductive to security. It should not be encouraged. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9086751 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9086751
  - zokier 11y ago
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't Wayland fix these kinds of security issues in X?
    - eropple 11y ago
      That's my understanding, but I think that's a ways off.
exelius 11y ago
Not yet; though doing it in HTML5 would be relatively trivial (start container on a port, then point a browser to it). Most kiosks these days are just browsers anyway. I would expect native graphics (including 3d graphics) are a feature we'll see down the road.
wmf 11y ago
Desktop containers are being worked on: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SandboxedApps https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SandboxedApps https://github.com/alexlarsson/xdg-app https://github.com/alexlarsson/xdg-app

tlrobinson 11y ago

Yes, you basically just have to mount the X11 socket as a volume: https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desk...

blueblizzy 11y ago
Over on the Windows side, there is also another container technology called Glassware made by Sphere 3D. Focus on productivity containers/end user apps. http://www.sphere3d.com/ http://www.sphere3d.com/
- dingdingdang 11y ago
  The buzztalk is strong with them: "The V3 Optimized Desktop Allocation (ODA) technology is the first and only technology that allows for hyper-converged appliances to be delivered in a distributed fashion." Sometimes I wonder about the strength of this sort of sales behaviour but ultimately I guess they make their own ecosystem by requiring specialized techies to translate even the sales pitch - promoting a sort of "it has got to be super-hyper-vigilantly efficient if I can't even understand what its good for, plus I can wash my hands of it professionally if it fails because anyone in their right mind can see the necessity of having someone else evaluate the usefulness of a system this incomprehensible"-response from certain managers.
eropple 11y ago
As discussed in the HN thread, this is dangerous and counterproductive to security. It should not be encouraged. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9086751 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9086751
- zokier 11y ago
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't Wayland fix these kinds of security issues in X?
  - eropple 11y ago
    That's my understanding, but I think that's a ways off.

exelius 11y ago

Not yet; though doing it in HTML5 would be relatively trivial (start container on a port, then point a browser to it). Most kiosks these days are just browsers anyway. I would expect native graphics (including 3d graphics) are a feature we'll see down the road.

wmf 11y ago

Desktop containers are being worked on: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SandboxedApps https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SandboxedApps https://github.com/alexlarsson/xdg-app https://github.com/alexlarsson/xdg-app