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http://recode.net/2015/06/15/heres-what-happens-to-your-10-after-you-pay-for-a-month-of-apple-music/ http://recode.net/2015/06/15/heres-what-happens-to-your-10-

by cwyers 11y ago

http://recode.net/2015/06/15/heres-what-happens-to-your-10-after-you-pay-for-a-month-of-apple-music/ http://recode.net/2015/06/15/heres-what-happens-to-your-10-a... "Apple won’t pay music owners anything for the songs that are streamed during Apple Music’s three-month trial period, a bone of contention with music labels during negotiations for the new service. But Kondrk says Apple’s payouts are a few percentage points higher than the industry standard, in part to account for the lengthy trial period; most paid subscription services offer a free one-month trial."

ratfacemcgee 11y ago
but did Apple ever say that? posting text from an article doesn't mean jack shit. Show me where Apple themselves said "We will not pay you during the free trial". the ONLY thing i can find is: http://beggars.com/group/pressrelease/90/with-regards-to-apple-music http://beggars.com/group/pressrelease/90/with-regards-to-app... which says: > In many ways the deal structure is very progressive, but unfortunately it was created without reference to us, or as far as we know any independents... >At the moment we do not have an agreement with Apple Music that would allow us to participate in the new service. so what does that mean? does it mean they are upset because they won't be getting paid, or does it mean that they are upset because their content won't be on the new service? the above article was cited in http://www.businessinsider.com.au/independent-labels-refuse-apple-music-deal-because-of-three-month-free-trial-2015-6 http://www.businessinsider.com.au/independent-labels-refuse-... that claimed: >The group’s main problem is with the three-month free trial Apple is offering to users when it launches on June 30. During that time, artists won’t be paid anything when their music is played on the platform. however, the blog post they cite doesn't at all say that. it says they won't be a part of the new service.
- geofft 11y ago
  Why is it plausible that Recode and every other news site and Taylor Swift all made this up (or that someone fed this to them) and that Apple did not correct them but instead acted as if they are making a change in policy? I mean, it's also possible that Eddy Cue's Twitter account was hacked by Taylor Swift, well known infosec thought leader that she is. Why is nobody reporting on the real story here??
  - tomkwok 11y ago
    Because the intelligent minds of us, humans, are wired to create and somewhat believe in conspiracy theories. And here's the 'real story' you're talking about[0]. [laugh] It seems like Infosec Taylor Swift has changed her(his) Twitter handle... [0]: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/612610848494784512 https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/61261084849478451...
- cwyers 11y ago
  From an article that just came out: http://recode.net/2015/06/21/apple-says-it-will-pay-taylor-swift-for-free-streams-after-all/ http://recode.net/2015/06/21/apple-says-it-will-pay-taylor-s... > Cue says he talked to Swift today about the change. “I did reach out to Taylor today, and talked to her, and let her know that we heard her concerns, and wanted her to know that we were making changes,” he says. “She was thrilled to hear from us and that we were making the change, and we were grateful for that.” Why would Apple contact Taylor Swift to let her know they were making changes if they weren't, y'know, making changes?
  - ratfacemcgee 11y ago
    > So in the absence of any information, let’s just speculate. It’s the Internet!

by cwyers 11y ago

ratfacemcgee 11y ago

but did Apple ever say that? posting text from an article doesn't mean jack shit. Show me where Apple themselves said "We will not pay you during the free trial". the ONLY thing i can find is: http://beggars.com/group/pressrelease/90/with-regards-to-apple-music http://beggars.com/group/pressrelease/90/with-regards-to-app... which says: > In many ways the deal structure is very progressive, but unfortunately it was created without reference to us, or as far as we know any independents... >At the moment we do not have an agreement with Apple Music that would allow us to participate in the new service. so what does that mean? does it mean they are upset because they won't be getting paid, or does it mean that they are upset because their content won't be on the new service? the above article was cited in http://www.businessinsider.com.au/independent-labels-refuse-apple-music-deal-because-of-three-month-free-trial-2015-6 http://www.businessinsider.com.au/independent-labels-refuse-... that claimed: >The group’s main problem is with the three-month free trial Apple is offering to users when it launches on June 30. During that time, artists won’t be paid anything when their music is played on the platform. however, the blog post they cite doesn't at all say that. it says they won't be a part of the new service.

geofft 11y ago
Why is it plausible that Recode and every other news site and Taylor Swift all made this up (or that someone fed this to them) and that Apple did not correct them but instead acted as if they are making a change in policy? I mean, it's also possible that Eddy Cue's Twitter account was hacked by Taylor Swift, well known infosec thought leader that she is. Why is nobody reporting on the real story here??
- tomkwok 11y ago
  Because the intelligent minds of us, humans, are wired to create and somewhat believe in conspiracy theories. And here's the 'real story' you're talking about[0]. [laugh] It seems like Infosec Taylor Swift has changed her(his) Twitter handle... [0]: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/612610848494784512 https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/61261084849478451...
cwyers 11y ago
From an article that just came out: http://recode.net/2015/06/21/apple-says-it-will-pay-taylor-swift-for-free-streams-after-all/ http://recode.net/2015/06/21/apple-says-it-will-pay-taylor-s... > Cue says he talked to Swift today about the change. “I did reach out to Taylor today, and talked to her, and let her know that we heard her concerns, and wanted her to know that we were making changes,” he says. “She was thrilled to hear from us and that we were making the change, and we were grateful for that.” Why would Apple contact Taylor Swift to let her know they were making changes if they weren't, y'know, making changes?
- ratfacemcgee 11y ago
  > So in the absence of any information, let’s just speculate. It’s the Internet!