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Complete click bait. GS is telling interns "you can't be in the office between midnight and 7am". I assume they didn't previously have a policy. So what anyone

Complete click bait. GS is telling interns "you can't be in the office between midnight and 7am". I assume they didn't previously have a policy. So what anyone would consider a strict improvement over the previous situation is criticized because it isn't enough of an improvement.

jlarocco 11y ago
The criticism is entirely valid. This is just a policy, so for now all they've done is announce it and write it down. They could have just as easily made up something more reasonable, like interns can't work more than 60 hours a week. 17 hours a day is up to 119 hours a week, which is clearly exploiting them. The fact that it's (apparently) an improvement is a little scary, and the banks should be embarrassed and called out on it.
- kevinpet 11y ago
  Interns working only 60 hours a week is much harder to monitor. A policy that says they can't be in the office between midnight and 7am is simple to monitor. The press has implied or allowed readers to conclude that interns were previous working more than 17 hours a day, which is nice for the author because you don't need to support an implication and you can't be called out for being incorrect in something you never say.
braythwayt 11y ago
So what anyone would consider a strict improvement over the previous situation is criticized because it isn't enough of an improvement. Perhaps it isn’t enough of an improvement. Putting our best straw men into service, imagine if we had unrestricted child labour, and the government introduced a law saying that children under twelve could not work more than eight hours a day and were to be allowed Sundays and Holidays off. That would be a strict improvement over the hypothetical previous situation, and would still be unacceptable to most civilized persons.
NeutronBoy 11y ago
I totally agree. Apparently nobody has critical thinking skills anymore. "you can't be in the office between midnight and 7am" doesn't necessarily mean 17 hour days - it means no working between midnight and 7am. (this is not a comment on what actually happens in GS, I'm sure there are people that do. But it's ok when startup founders do it, right?)

jlarocco 11y ago

The criticism is entirely valid. This is just a policy, so for now all they've done is announce it and write it down. They could have just as easily made up something more reasonable, like interns can't work more than 60 hours a week. 17 hours a day is up to 119 hours a week, which is clearly exploiting them. The fact that it's (apparently) an improvement is a little scary, and the banks should be embarrassed and called out on it.

kevinpet 11y ago
Interns working only 60 hours a week is much harder to monitor. A policy that says they can't be in the office between midnight and 7am is simple to monitor. The press has implied or allowed readers to conclude that interns were previous working more than 17 hours a day, which is nice for the author because you don't need to support an implication and you can't be called out for being incorrect in something you never say.

braythwayt 11y ago

So what anyone would consider a strict improvement over the previous situation is criticized because it isn't enough of an improvement. Perhaps it isn’t enough of an improvement. Putting our best straw men into service, imagine if we had unrestricted child labour, and the government introduced a law saying that children under twelve could not work more than eight hours a day and were to be allowed Sundays and Holidays off. That would be a strict improvement over the hypothetical previous situation, and would still be unacceptable to most civilized persons.

NeutronBoy 11y ago

I totally agree. Apparently nobody has critical thinking skills anymore. "you can't be in the office between midnight and 7am" doesn't necessarily mean 17 hour days - it means no working between midnight and 7am. (this is not a comment on what actually happens in GS, I'm sure there are people that do. But it's ok when startup founders do it, right?)