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"None of which gets round the core issue: if EHS is real, I asked Diane, then why has it not shown up in formal experiments? “I encourage scientists to go to wh
by beloch 11y ago
"None of which gets round the core issue: if EHS is real, I asked Diane, then why has it not shown up in formal experiments? “I encourage scientists to go to where we are and measure the environment,” she replied. “Don’t try to pretend that you’re God and expose us to different frequencies in a lab. That’s like taking someone and breaking their legs and asking how much it hurts.”"
Right, so we can't actually test your crippling sensitivity to EMF in a lab even though, if it's as bad as you say it is, a double blind test to see if you could reliably tell when a radio in a shoe-box is switched on ought to be good enough.
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"the lack of proof from major studies is merely evidence of a conspiracy between interested parties. “Conventional government-funded science isn’t a reliable indicator of health defects,” she told me. “There’s a vested interest in keeping the truth out of circulation."
So, beyond the fact that willing test subjects are hard to find, there's a conspiracy to cover up evidence showing people really are "sensitives".
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"Like Meckna, Dacre felt that there were people claiming to be electrosensitive who were nothing of the sort, who were queering the pitch for the others: “You can tell at once who is just pretending,” she said. "
Even better, the test subjects we can round up are likely fakers!
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"“See those?” he asked.
“Aeroplane trails?”
“Not contrails – chemtrails,” he said. “The government sprays the air – it gets in the atmosphere.” He paused and looked me in the eye. “The world needs to know what’s happening here.” "
My suspicions about what's really going on here are beginning to coalesce...
- reamworks 11y agoThese people are almost as bad as the "Healthy at Any Size" folks who deny that Obesity leads to serious health problems. Sadly, "Fat Acceptance" is the only point of view that's allowed on reddit, and in Y Combinator News, despite the fact that it's just as unscientific as believing in EHS.
- scholia 11y agoGiven that hundreds of millions of people live in cities like London, New York, Tokyo etc that are completely covered with thousands of mobile phone towers and thousands more Wi-Fi networks -- not to mention radio controlled cars, baby monitors and all the other things that use the same frequencies as Wi-Fi -- EHS is remarkably rare. Really, Starbucks baristas should be dropping like flies. However, the reality is that Wi-Fi sickness or EHS is not caused by Wi-Fi, it is caused by stories about Wi-Fi. It is a Mass psychogenic illness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness It's like a placebo effect, where fake pills can actually cure sick people (if they believe that they will). However, because it's the opposite effect to a placebo, it's called a nocebo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo People really do get sick, even though there is no biological reason for them to get sick. Fortunately, most EHS victims just get the symptoms that are common to all mass psychogenic illnesses, regardless of the imagined cause: headaches (67%), dizziness or light-headedness (46%), nausea (41%) and so on. However. some nocebo's can be fatal, eg witch-doctors. Journalist training should really include information about nocebos because writing or broadcasting about psychogenic illnesses can cause psychogenic illnesses. As it is, however, almost all today's EHS sickness is most likely caused by the people who are campaigning about EHS.
- reagency 11y agoPlacebos can only affect psych/neuro (and possibly hormonal) conditions, which is the brain is biologically capable of changing things. Not all illnesses are susceptible to placebo.
- scholia 11y agoIndeed, placebos are not a good treatment for the vast majority of physical illnesses. There's a big difference between being better and feeling better.