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If you can't fire or promote them are you really their manager?
by skeeterbug 11y ago
If you can't fire or promote them are you really their manager?
- balls187 11y agoEven if you are in an "At-Will" employment state, it's not as simple to fire an employee. You have to have HR involved, and prepare enough documentation to satisfy the need to terminate someone. In smaller orgs with no HR, it's probably easier, but larger companies have a specific process. Though to your point, I would not consider myself someones manager unless I had the option to hire, fire, or promote them.
- yeukhon 11y agoUnion, tenure, or simply no from upper management. Sometimes people deliver the result but they may behave in a way that shows they are not motivated. That is a hard thing to use to fire someone.
- danieltillett 11y agoExactly. My experience is from within the university system where nobody can be fired for non-performance. You get people that are just waiting to retire and don't care about anyone other than themselves.
- danieltillett 11y agoNot really, but when you are held responsible for their "productivity" (or more accurately lack of productivity) you have all the responsibility and none of the resources to manage.