It's a group who is lobbying for inefficiency in the recovery and rehabilitation of our citizens. That is not great. It goes against the long terms interests of

It's a group who is lobbying for inefficiency in the recovery and rehabilitation of our citizens. That is not great. It goes against the long terms interests of society. I'm not against privatization of services, but this sort of service lends itself to lobbying for inefficiency which is what you are trying to squeeze out of the system by engaging the private sector.