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I can't think on a worse idea that electronic voting machines in Argentina or Brazil. Corruption is chronic there. I traveled to Brazil with a friend , he did

I can't think on a worse idea that electronic voting machines in Argentina or Brazil. Corruption is chronic there. I traveled to Brazil with a friend , he did a mistake(not using common sense) an his camera and the bag we used with several electronic tools was stolen. He went to the police, and was beaten by the police!! We are from Spain and he simply expected a behavior in institutions that does not exist there. In Brazil you are either rich or poor, and police protects the rich(or the highest bidder) with iron fist. They are rude and you better not resist. Argentina by the way has Spanish and Italian "picaresca" on their veins. "Ser un vivo" and fool other people is not only ok, but something to brag around. Electronic voting could work on Switzerland or Denmark, and even there I will only trust it for menial tasks, like what they do in Switzerland asking people opinion on the new street lights(they do it using mail!!) and so on, but never with serious things like who gets in power. Last time I was in Argentina,there were elections, and the politicians were literary buying the vote of poor people with crumbs even renting buses for them.

plesner 11y ago
Electronic voting has been discussed in Denmark and both experts and most politicians are against it. I suspect there's some correlation between how eager countries are to introduce electronic voting and how likely it is to be abused.
gphilip 11y ago
India has been successfully using EVMs for elections since the turn of the century [1]. And an Indian General Election is no menial task. In the latest election of 2014, 814.5 million people were eligible to vote, making it the largest-ever election in the world. A total of 8,251 candidates contested for 543 seats in the Indian parliament. The average election turnout was around 66.38% [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_voting_machines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_voting_machines [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_general_election,_2014 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_general_election,_2014
leandrocp 11y ago
I'm from Brazil. What you are describing is the "brazilian way" (jeitinho brasileiro), which indeed happens. Much of people are against eletronic voting machines, but the problem is that we dont have good politicians that represent us to make opposition. And some part of population even know what is happening with the country.
hobarrera 11y ago
As an Argentine citizen, I can vouch for everything said above. Indeed, some political parties give buses and free food to people as "motivation" to vote (even though voting is mandatory). Since being a child I've known that on a long distance bus, or airplane, you never put anything remotely valuable in our luggage, and carry those things with you. Otherwise they'll be stolen. It's not "they might be stolen", it's very much a hard rule.
gcb0 11y ago
au contraire. it's a great idea. corruption and vote manipulation will happen either way. but that way it's at least a little more ecological and economical for the tax payers. not to mention two days earlier to get results so you know alpha corrupt du jour (and two less days for the former one to screw things even more for the new one during the murky transition period)

plesner 11y ago

Electronic voting has been discussed in Denmark and both experts and most politicians are against it. I suspect there's some correlation between how eager countries are to introduce electronic voting and how likely it is to be abused.

gphilip 11y ago

India has been successfully using EVMs for elections since the turn of the century [1]. And an Indian General Election is no menial task. In the latest election of 2014, 814.5 million people were eligible to vote, making it the largest-ever election in the world. A total of 8,251 candidates contested for 543 seats in the Indian parliament. The average election turnout was around 66.38% [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_voting_machines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_voting_machines [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_general_election,_2014 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_general_election,_2014

leandrocp 11y ago

I'm from Brazil. What you are describing is the "brazilian way" (jeitinho brasileiro), which indeed happens. Much of people are against eletronic voting machines, but the problem is that we dont have good politicians that represent us to make opposition. And some part of population even know what is happening with the country.

hobarrera 11y ago

As an Argentine citizen, I can vouch for everything said above. Indeed, some political parties give buses and free food to people as "motivation" to vote (even though voting is mandatory). Since being a child I've known that on a long distance bus, or airplane, you never put anything remotely valuable in our luggage, and carry those things with you. Otherwise they'll be stolen. It's not "they might be stolen", it's very much a hard rule.

gcb0 11y ago

au contraire. it's a great idea. corruption and vote manipulation will happen either way. but that way it's at least a little more ecological and economical for the tax payers. not to mention two days earlier to get results so you know alpha corrupt du jour (and two less days for the former one to screw things even more for the new one during the murky transition period)