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Have Wikileaks ever dox'd an ally to Russia?

hack_edu 11y ago
They have an itemized list of all countries relating to leaks on their wiki, which includes (the remaining few) Russian allies. https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Countries https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Countries Wikileaks has released a number of Syrian leaks in particular, both before and during the current situation. https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/ https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/
discardorama 11y ago
I assume the implication is that Wikileaks is somehow in cahoots with Russia?
- mpyne 11y ago
  This is a joke, right? Assange himself admitted to telling Snowden to flee to Russia in particular, not just as a waypoint to Havana... But yes, since 2010 or so Wikileaks has been co-opted by Russia. In October 2010 Assange had crowed that "The Kremlin had better brace itself for a coming wave of WikiLeaks disclosures about Russia" and within a month [1] was meekly "revising" his comment to state instead that "we have material on many businesses and governments, including in Russia. It's not right to say there's going to be a particular focus on Russia". And indeed, the world still has yet to figure out what Assange was talking about in October 2010. In fact Assange has been quite close with states intertwined with Russia since then, e.g. http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/03/belarus-assange-lukashenko http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/03/belar... (what really boggles the mind about this article, which pre-dates Snowden, is the idea of Assange railing against "his enemies at the Guardian"). [1] http://www.russiaprofile.org/international/a1288285095.html http://www.russiaprofile.org/international/a1288285095.html <-- Want to know what changed Assange's mind?
  - icelancer 11y ago
    >This is a joke, right? Assange himself admitted to telling Snowden to flee to Russia in particular, not just as a waypoint to Havana... How does this mean WikiLeaks/Assange is allied with Russia? It seems to me that it is equally (or more) plausible that Russia is powerful enough to stonewall extradition requests for American citizens in this pseudo cold war of information, and Assange may have banked on that (smaller countries may have the desire but not the political power to make it happen).
    - trevelyan 11y ago
      The entire Cold War thing is quite funny. Also hilarious that documents discussing Saudi support for ISIS are considered anti-American, by some....
    - bizkeep2 11y ago
      Because the Wikileaks party validated two allies of Russia that were being accused of war crimes. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/14/wikileaks-partys-syria-visit-is-a-damaging-and-misguided-pr-coup http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/14/wikilea...
    - bizkeep2 11y ago
      Saudi Arabia drove down the price of the Ruble.This is the punishment.
pen2l 11y ago
Yes, they've released a lot of leaks from India. Russia and India are fairly close friends.
- mpyne 11y ago
  And yet not as close as they used to be. It's not coincidental that the U.S. DoD has just recently signed agreements with India on exporting carrier technology and know-how, among other defense cooperation projects. Russia has supplied many of India's defense needs for some time, but that's less from any special Indian affinity for Russia than because the U.S. had kind of forced their hand decades ago by aligning with Pakistan, which wasn't helped when the U.S. later sanctioned India in 1998 due to its nuclear weapons testing.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Russia, The US, India, Pakistan, and China have a full on orgy of various alliances against various combinations of counter alliances, that whole region if completely fucked up everyone is sleeping with everyone while trying to fuck everyone else, now days it's getting even more complicated with the EU trying to get a foothold in the Caspian sea to bypass Russia for better energy independence which kinda messed up the wired but some what stable status quo that region had. If people think that the middle east is complicated they really have no idea whats going on just north east of it :P
    - known 11y ago
      Americans can PRINT dollars to buy OPEC Oil; Others have to EARN dollars to buy OPEC Oil; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrocurrency#Currencies_used_to_trade_oil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrocurrency#Currencies_used_...
bizkeep2 11y ago
Mostly benign leaks. Wikileaks party has shilled for the Iranian gov. It also visited the Assad leadership.
istvan__ 11y ago
Do they have anything? Russia was relatively ok in the last 20 years (except the wars against Georgia, Chechen wars). They never really hide their actions, like annexing Crimea was communicated way in advance to the NATO, like in years. The western media barely mentions it. There was an earlier agreement between the NATO and Russia that we are not expanding to the east direction in the EU and we do not interfere with Russian interests in ex-soviet countries. Anyways it would be good to see more information from WL on these, I am really curious what went down exactly.
- afarrell 11y ago
  > annexing Crimea was communicated way in advance to the NATO Wait it was? I am genuinely interested. Can you please link to something more about this in either English or Russian?
  - istvan__ 11y ago
    Sure. I think it started around here: http://rt.com/politics/russia-ukraine-europe-pressure-440/ http://rt.com/politics/russia-ukraine-europe-pressure-440/ The funny thing is, I was reading about this and discussed with our friends but I cannot find any reference in Google about it anymore. It feakin' weird because I am 100% it happened. Right now it is happening again btw: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-warns-sweden-it-will-face-military-action-if-it-joins-nato-10331397.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-warns-... They did the same thing with Ukraine situation. I am still digging. I can't read Russian anymore though. :)
  - istvan__ 11y ago
    This was the discussion: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/10/22/rasmussen-no-nato-membership-for-ukraine-georgia.html http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/10/22/rasmussen-no-n... At this stage the NATO and allies knew that Russia is not happy with their plans on eastern expansion. I am trying to find a proof that they were aware of the annexation plans.
    - 11y ago

They have an itemized list of all countries relating to leaks on their wiki, which includes (the remaining few) Russian allies. https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Countries https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Countries Wikileaks has released a number of Syrian leaks in particular, both before and during the current situation. https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/ https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/

discardorama 11y ago

I assume the implication is that Wikileaks is somehow in cahoots with Russia?

mpyne 11y ago
This is a joke, right? Assange himself admitted to telling Snowden to flee to Russia in particular, not just as a waypoint to Havana... But yes, since 2010 or so Wikileaks has been co-opted by Russia. In October 2010 Assange had crowed that "The Kremlin had better brace itself for a coming wave of WikiLeaks disclosures about Russia" and within a month [1] was meekly "revising" his comment to state instead that "we have material on many businesses and governments, including in Russia. It's not right to say there's going to be a particular focus on Russia". And indeed, the world still has yet to figure out what Assange was talking about in October 2010. In fact Assange has been quite close with states intertwined with Russia since then, e.g. http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/03/belarus-assange-lukashenko http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/03/belar... (what really boggles the mind about this article, which pre-dates Snowden, is the idea of Assange railing against "his enemies at the Guardian"). [1] http://www.russiaprofile.org/international/a1288285095.html http://www.russiaprofile.org/international/a1288285095.html <-- Want to know what changed Assange's mind?
- icelancer 11y ago
  >This is a joke, right? Assange himself admitted to telling Snowden to flee to Russia in particular, not just as a waypoint to Havana... How does this mean WikiLeaks/Assange is allied with Russia? It seems to me that it is equally (or more) plausible that Russia is powerful enough to stonewall extradition requests for American citizens in this pseudo cold war of information, and Assange may have banked on that (smaller countries may have the desire but not the political power to make it happen).
  - trevelyan 11y ago
    The entire Cold War thing is quite funny. Also hilarious that documents discussing Saudi support for ISIS are considered anti-American, by some....
  - bizkeep2 11y ago
    Because the Wikileaks party validated two allies of Russia that were being accused of war crimes. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/14/wikileaks-partys-syria-visit-is-a-damaging-and-misguided-pr-coup http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/14/wikilea...
  - bizkeep2 11y ago
    Saudi Arabia drove down the price of the Ruble.This is the punishment.

pen2l 11y ago

Yes, they've released a lot of leaks from India. Russia and India are fairly close friends.

mpyne 11y ago
And yet not as close as they used to be. It's not coincidental that the U.S. DoD has just recently signed agreements with India on exporting carrier technology and know-how, among other defense cooperation projects. Russia has supplied many of India's defense needs for some time, but that's less from any special Indian affinity for Russia than because the U.S. had kind of forced their hand decades ago by aligning with Pakistan, which wasn't helped when the U.S. later sanctioned India in 1998 due to its nuclear weapons testing.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  Russia, The US, India, Pakistan, and China have a full on orgy of various alliances against various combinations of counter alliances, that whole region if completely fucked up everyone is sleeping with everyone while trying to fuck everyone else, now days it's getting even more complicated with the EU trying to get a foothold in the Caspian sea to bypass Russia for better energy independence which kinda messed up the wired but some what stable status quo that region had. If people think that the middle east is complicated they really have no idea whats going on just north east of it :P
  - known 11y ago
    Americans can PRINT dollars to buy OPEC Oil; Others have to EARN dollars to buy OPEC Oil; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrocurrency#Currencies_used_to_trade_oil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrocurrency#Currencies_used_...

bizkeep2 11y ago

Mostly benign leaks. Wikileaks party has shilled for the Iranian gov. It also visited the Assad leadership.

istvan__ 11y ago

Do they have anything? Russia was relatively ok in the last 20 years (except the wars against Georgia, Chechen wars). They never really hide their actions, like annexing Crimea was communicated way in advance to the NATO, like in years. The western media barely mentions it. There was an earlier agreement between the NATO and Russia that we are not expanding to the east direction in the EU and we do not interfere with Russian interests in ex-soviet countries. Anyways it would be good to see more information from WL on these, I am really curious what went down exactly.

afarrell 11y ago
> annexing Crimea was communicated way in advance to the NATO Wait it was? I am genuinely interested. Can you please link to something more about this in either English or Russian?
- istvan__ 11y ago
  Sure. I think it started around here: http://rt.com/politics/russia-ukraine-europe-pressure-440/ http://rt.com/politics/russia-ukraine-europe-pressure-440/ The funny thing is, I was reading about this and discussed with our friends but I cannot find any reference in Google about it anymore. It feakin' weird because I am 100% it happened. Right now it is happening again btw: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-warns-sweden-it-will-face-military-action-if-it-joins-nato-10331397.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-warns-... They did the same thing with Ukraine situation. I am still digging. I can't read Russian anymore though. :)
- istvan__ 11y ago
  This was the discussion: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/10/22/rasmussen-no-nato-membership-for-ukraine-georgia.html http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/10/22/rasmussen-no-n... At this stage the NATO and allies knew that Russia is not happy with their plans on eastern expansion. I am trying to find a proof that they were aware of the annexation plans.
  - 11y ago