I think you're closest. I have yet to see any business in the bitcoin space that many bitcoiners themselves didn't say was a scam. Literally every business. As

I think you're closest. I have yet to see any business in the bitcoin space that many bitcoiners themselves didn't say was a scam. Literally every business. As a group, bitcoiners are the most scam-declaiming group of people that ever lived. As a group. Individuals are something else again.