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This worries me a little too. What about the guy who posts several messages an hour all consisting of only of swear words or who posts answers to newbie questio

by almost 17y ago

This worries me a little too. What about the guy who posts several messages an hour all consisting of only of swear words or who posts answers to newbie questions with links to Goatse or any of the infinite other ways I'm sure exist to totally disrupt a list if there's no way to control anything. Of course presumably there will still be people with the authority to remove really bad examples like that. But will they have the time to look after the many many lists which will probably soon exist?

zedshaw 17y ago
The plan is to do it craigslist style. Each email will have a "hate" link you can hit to go mark it as spam or troll. Too many of these and the sender is blocked (for spam) or throttled (for trolls). On the inverse side, I think I'll also track your voting rates, and if you tend to rate too many people as trolls or spam then your voting will also be throttled. But, it's also just a plan. The goal is to create something that lets communities moderate themselves without too much tyranny of the majority of minority. That's why the code is open, so that people with ideas about how to do that can help make it happen.
- almost 17y ago
  Ok, that makes a bit more sense. It's not that no one can be censored, it's just that the power to do so doesn't rest with a small group of admins. That sounds much better, hope it works out!
- deleted 17y ago
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- Smirlouf 17y ago
  That "hate" thing comes from your Utu project, I guess. While I like the idea, I'm not sure it's a good idea to label it as such in the interface. You might also have a hard time figuring out the genuine flaggings from the ones made by spambots...
- jdunck 17y ago
  A big difference between craigslist flagging and inbox flagging is that by the time a user can flag a message in email, the message has been delivered to everybody. You can't have a few people remove crap messages from everybody's inbox (right?), so if I can post without reputation, and/or signup in some automated way, the whole thing melts down. Maybe deliver to people in a reputation order and slight delay to allow the damage to be minimized?
  - zedshaw 17y ago
    "Damage"? Yeah, it's impossible to stop all spam or stuff you don't want to see. It's only possible to reduce it over a longer period of time. In fact, any gear we cook up on the project using Lamson could probably be circumvented with Lamson itself if not thought out carefully. So yeah, you'll get some spam. Install a spam filter and just accept that's the price you pay for being on the internet, and we'll do our best to reduce it.
- riffraff 17y ago
  slashdot style metamoderation FTW!
ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
I suppose it's just too much to ask that you ignore him? For fucks sake trolls are just people who do things. They aren't magical beings that need to be warned off or they will eat you. In Adult World we deal with simply don't give attention to attention wanters.
- count 17y ago
  But who here lives in Adult World?
- count 17y ago
  But who here lives in Adult World?
  - ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
    Now I'm all depressed :/

by almost 17y ago

zedshaw 17y ago

The plan is to do it craigslist style. Each email will have a "hate" link you can hit to go mark it as spam or troll. Too many of these and the sender is blocked (for spam) or throttled (for trolls). On the inverse side, I think I'll also track your voting rates, and if you tend to rate too many people as trolls or spam then your voting will also be throttled. But, it's also just a plan. The goal is to create something that lets communities moderate themselves without too much tyranny of the majority of minority. That's why the code is open, so that people with ideas about how to do that can help make it happen.

almost 17y ago
Ok, that makes a bit more sense. It's not that no one can be censored, it's just that the power to do so doesn't rest with a small group of admins. That sounds much better, hope it works out!
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Smirlouf 17y ago
That "hate" thing comes from your Utu project, I guess. While I like the idea, I'm not sure it's a good idea to label it as such in the interface. You might also have a hard time figuring out the genuine flaggings from the ones made by spambots...
jdunck 17y ago
A big difference between craigslist flagging and inbox flagging is that by the time a user can flag a message in email, the message has been delivered to everybody. You can't have a few people remove crap messages from everybody's inbox (right?), so if I can post without reputation, and/or signup in some automated way, the whole thing melts down. Maybe deliver to people in a reputation order and slight delay to allow the damage to be minimized?
- zedshaw 17y ago
  "Damage"? Yeah, it's impossible to stop all spam or stuff you don't want to see. It's only possible to reduce it over a longer period of time. In fact, any gear we cook up on the project using Lamson could probably be circumvented with Lamson itself if not thought out carefully. So yeah, you'll get some spam. Install a spam filter and just accept that's the price you pay for being on the internet, and we'll do our best to reduce it.
riffraff 17y ago
slashdot style metamoderation FTW!

ThinkWriteMute 17y ago

I suppose it's just too much to ask that you ignore him? For fucks sake trolls are just people who do things. They aren't magical beings that need to be warned off or they will eat you. In Adult World we deal with simply don't give attention to attention wanters.

count 17y ago
But who here lives in Adult World?
count 17y ago
But who here lives in Adult World?
- ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
  Now I'm all depressed :/