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> I start my day with a 1.5 hour walk with my dog Fanny > I normally get rid of sleep debt on Friday by sleeping a bit longer than on working day > lunch with

> I start my day with a 1.5 hour walk with my dog Fanny > I normally get rid of sleep debt on Friday by sleeping a bit longer than on working day > lunch with my wife > travel to martial arts training Sounds like this person is scheduling an extra day for networking/meeting clients/etc., then filling the day with "day off" type of stuff like 1.5 hour dog walks and sleeping in, then complaining that the "4-day work week" doesn't work. Am I the only one seeing the disconnect here?

Tx3 11y ago
I'm sorry if I was misleading, my intention was not say that 4-day work week doesn't work. I just didn't have to use the day for meetings like I originally planned and instead I was able to write that blog post that you just observed.
- scottyab 11y ago
  I didn't read it as that you were saying a 4-day work week doesn't work. Thanks for sharing.
- mordocai 11y ago
  I also read this as just describing how it worked for you, not saying that it didn't work. I guess some changes to the post might help though since people seem to be getting that impression.
vosper 11y ago
No, I'm with you on this. > The original plan was to use the fifth day for non-billable work such as searching clients, meeting with people, doing mandatory paperwork, writing blog posts, doing something that would later generate passive income etc. If you're not billing on the 5th day, but you're still doing work, then you don't have a 4 day work week.
- flanbiscuit 11y ago
  this is exactly what I thought when I read this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole idea of a 4-day work week is that we can get all our work done in 4 days and then essentially have a 3-day weekend. It's a 3-days off thing, not an extra day to work on things you couldn't do in the other 4 days. Plus his status as a freelancer already puts him in a different class of people that has full control over their hours. I believe the 4-day work week movement is targeted to people that HAVE to work 5 days because they are working full-time for a company that mandates 5 days of work.
  - Tx3 11y ago
    I think you're right. It could mean exactly what you said that all work is done in 4-days and then three days off. But it's equally right to do less work and spend the time on anything you like or things you have to do. I do agree that freelancer status gives you more control, but it should not hurt anyone to ask what is your company's point of view. Assuming that employee is interested of downshifting, studying, working on a side-project (that is not competing with employers product) etc.
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m_t 11y ago
I don't think I read a complaint in this post?
moey 11y ago
I'm seeing a disconnect alright, but it's from the article and your comment. In no way did I interpret that article as saying "the 4-day work week doesn't work." Although, if you're working on the 5th day, it's not really a four day work week. My Fridays at my regular job are almost as relaxed.
- Tx3 11y ago
  It's a bit fuzzy what is work and what isn't. For example: writing a blog post might be work for someone, side-projects can be done for business purposes or for just hobby etc. What I try to do is things that interest me and get joy out of it.
mfoy_ 11y ago
You hit the nail on the head, I read the first paragraph and thought the same thing. The only thing a 4-day work week is guaranteed to get you is a 3-day weekend. What you do with that time is entirely on you.
krisdol 11y ago
I don't think he said it doesn't work, let alone that he's no longer doing it. I also feel like a 4 day work-week for employees and a 4-day work-week for freelancers ought to be pretty different. You're going to have to find clients, do paperwork, and other unpaid managerial duties as a freelancer regardless of how long your work week. If it's 5 days, guess what? That stuff is eating into your weekends and nights.
run4yourlives2 11y ago
Agreed. Most people take care of their "sleep debt" on the weekends. That's partly why they are called weekends after all.
- rifung 11y ago
  Care to explain? What does the word "weekend" have to do with sleep debt?
  - Tx3 11y ago
    There is no need to wake up early, I think it's simple as that. On a working day you might have to wake up earlier than you would naturally do.
    - rifung 11y ago
      What does that have to do with the word weekend? My question was about "That's partly why they are called weekends after all."

Tx3 11y ago

I'm sorry if I was misleading, my intention was not say that 4-day work week doesn't work. I just didn't have to use the day for meetings like I originally planned and instead I was able to write that blog post that you just observed.

scottyab 11y ago
I didn't read it as that you were saying a 4-day work week doesn't work. Thanks for sharing.
mordocai 11y ago
I also read this as just describing how it worked for you, not saying that it didn't work. I guess some changes to the post might help though since people seem to be getting that impression.

vosper 11y ago

No, I'm with you on this. > The original plan was to use the fifth day for non-billable work such as searching clients, meeting with people, doing mandatory paperwork, writing blog posts, doing something that would later generate passive income etc. If you're not billing on the 5th day, but you're still doing work, then you don't have a 4 day work week.

flanbiscuit 11y ago
this is exactly what I thought when I read this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole idea of a 4-day work week is that we can get all our work done in 4 days and then essentially have a 3-day weekend. It's a 3-days off thing, not an extra day to work on things you couldn't do in the other 4 days. Plus his status as a freelancer already puts him in a different class of people that has full control over their hours. I believe the 4-day work week movement is targeted to people that HAVE to work 5 days because they are working full-time for a company that mandates 5 days of work.
- Tx3 11y ago
  I think you're right. It could mean exactly what you said that all work is done in 4-days and then three days off. But it's equally right to do less work and spend the time on anything you like or things you have to do. I do agree that freelancer status gives you more control, but it should not hurt anyone to ask what is your company's point of view. Assuming that employee is interested of downshifting, studying, working on a side-project (that is not competing with employers product) etc.

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m_t 11y ago

I don't think I read a complaint in this post?

moey 11y ago

I'm seeing a disconnect alright, but it's from the article and your comment. In no way did I interpret that article as saying "the 4-day work week doesn't work." Although, if you're working on the 5th day, it's not really a four day work week. My Fridays at my regular job are almost as relaxed.

Tx3 11y ago
It's a bit fuzzy what is work and what isn't. For example: writing a blog post might be work for someone, side-projects can be done for business purposes or for just hobby etc. What I try to do is things that interest me and get joy out of it.

mfoy_ 11y ago

You hit the nail on the head, I read the first paragraph and thought the same thing. The only thing a 4-day work week is guaranteed to get you is a 3-day weekend. What you do with that time is entirely on you.

krisdol 11y ago

I don't think he said it doesn't work, let alone that he's no longer doing it. I also feel like a 4 day work-week for employees and a 4-day work-week for freelancers ought to be pretty different. You're going to have to find clients, do paperwork, and other unpaid managerial duties as a freelancer regardless of how long your work week. If it's 5 days, guess what? That stuff is eating into your weekends and nights.

run4yourlives2 11y ago

Agreed. Most people take care of their "sleep debt" on the weekends. That's partly why they are called weekends after all.

rifung 11y ago
Care to explain? What does the word "weekend" have to do with sleep debt?
- Tx3 11y ago
  There is no need to wake up early, I think it's simple as that. On a working day you might have to wake up earlier than you would naturally do.
  - rifung 11y ago
    What does that have to do with the word weekend? My question was about "That's partly why they are called weekends after all."