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Haven't they known this for a long time? http://jn.nutrition.org/content/31/3/363.full.pdf http://jn.nutrition.org/content/31/3/363.full.pdf APPARENT PROLONGA

Haven't they known this for a long time? http://jn.nutrition.org/content/31/3/363.full.pdf http://jn.nutrition.org/content/31/3/363.full.pdf APPARENT PROLONGATION OF THE LIFE SPAN OF RATS BY INTERMITTENT FASTING by ANTON J. CARLSON AND FREDERICK HOELZEL Department of Physiology, University of Chicago, Chkago (Received for publication October 4, 1945 )

jerf 11y ago
HN has carried news about fasting before, but this the first science article I've seen about a diet, i.e., food being eaten, that appears to mimic the benefits of fasting without actually fasting. That's a way easier sell for people, and also a way easier sell for doctors prescribing this to people who may be on the edge for other reasons and unable to sustain a true no-food fast. (As long as I'm commenting, I complained a couple of days ago about how I'm very strongly willing to bet now that the "standard" diet is really quite bad, but that I'm far weaker on what a good diet is. This is the sort of thing I mean... how useful is fasting? Can we simulate the results without having to pay as many costs? How does fasting integrate with a low-carb/low-glycemic-index/whatever-else-you-like diet? What's the biochemical mechanisms at play here? Can we use those mechanisms any other way? There's so, so much fantastic and useful work to be done here, and instead we spent nearly 50 years re-running the same damned studies over and over again, wrong. ("Are eggs good for you? Are eggs good for you? Are eggs good for you? Are eggs good for you? I propose to study the question of whether eggs are good for you, give me half a million dollars...."))
- erkkie 11y ago
  Eggs are good your you, eat them (laterish) in the morning with not too much carbs and possibly reap the benefits of fasting as well :)
leereeves 11y ago
Yes, this paper is building on that work; developing a diet with effects similar to intermittent/prolonged fasting.
__z 11y ago
The idea was to not actually fast but to develop a diet that mocks fasting.

jerf 11y ago

HN has carried news about fasting before, but this the first science article I've seen about a diet, i.e., food being eaten, that appears to mimic the benefits of fasting without actually fasting. That's a way easier sell for people, and also a way easier sell for doctors prescribing this to people who may be on the edge for other reasons and unable to sustain a true no-food fast. (As long as I'm commenting, I complained a couple of days ago about how I'm very strongly willing to bet now that the "standard" diet is really quite bad, but that I'm far weaker on what a good diet is. This is the sort of thing I mean... how useful is fasting? Can we simulate the results without having to pay as many costs? How does fasting integrate with a low-carb/low-glycemic-index/whatever-else-you-like diet? What's the biochemical mechanisms at play here? Can we use those mechanisms any other way? There's so, so much fantastic and useful work to be done here, and instead we spent nearly 50 years re-running the same damned studies over and over again, wrong. ("Are eggs good for you? Are eggs good for you? Are eggs good for you? Are eggs good for you? I propose to study the question of whether eggs are good for you, give me half a million dollars...."))

erkkie 11y ago
Eggs are good your you, eat them (laterish) in the morning with not too much carbs and possibly reap the benefits of fasting as well :)

leereeves 11y ago

Yes, this paper is building on that work; developing a diet with effects similar to intermittent/prolonged fasting.

__z 11y ago

The idea was to not actually fast but to develop a diet that mocks fasting.