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I think this quote speaks volumes - "WebAssembly has so far been a joint effort among Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, and a few other folks." Sometimes I think may

I think this quote speaks volumes - "WebAssembly has so far been a joint effort among Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, and a few other folks." Sometimes I think maybe, just maybe the W3C and other web standards groups finally have some wind behind their sails. It may have taken a while, but with all these individuals and organizations cooperating in an open space, we may finally advance yet again into another new era of innovation for the web. I am really excited about this, much like others in these comments. We have been beating around the bush to have a true assembly/development layer in the browser for a long time: Java applets, Flash, Silverlight, you name it - but no true standard that was open like Javascript is open. This component has the possibility of being the neutral ground that everyone can build on top of. To the creators (Brendan Eich et. al) & supporters, well done and best of luck in this endeavor. It's already started on the right foot (asm.js was what lead the way to this I think) - let's hope they can keep it cooperative and open as much as possible for the benefit of everyone!

walterbell 11y ago
> WebAssembly has so far been a joint effort among Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, and a few other folks Is Apple participating?
- andhow 11y ago
  https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146064 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146064
- bryanlarsen 11y ago
  Yes: "I’m happy to report that we at Mozilla have started working with Chromium, Edge and WebKit engineers " https://blog.mozilla.org/luke/2015/06/17/webassembly/ https://blog.mozilla.org/luke/2015/06/17/webassembly/
  - michaelmior 11y ago
    This doesn't seem to necessarily imply that Apple is directly involved. But it's good to know that Safari should be included in this effort.
    - bd 11y ago
      That WebKit issue about WebAssembly was filed by engineer working on "compilers and language runtime systems at Apple": http://www.filpizlo.com/ http://www.filpizlo.com/ https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146064 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146064
      - kevinwang 11y ago
        Although that doesn't necessarily mean that Apple the company is involved, no?
        walterbell 11y ago
        Maybe the engineer who is involved wasn't able to obtain organizational signoff in time for Apple to put their name on the list of top-level endorsers of the proposed standard? Hopefully Apple can issue a statement later.
        SiVal 11y ago
        WebAssembly has so far been a joint effort among Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, and a few other folks. I’m sorry the work was done via a private github account at first, but that was a temporary measure to help the several big companies reach consensus and buy into the long-term cooperative game that must be played to pull this off. So, the effort to get buy-in from the big companies that matter has been going on for some time, and now that we've done that, here's the result: Every big company that matters except Apple. It's not as though the list of the four big companies that matter is too long to reasonably be expected to name the fourth, and the name of the fourth is not webkit.org or Fil Pizlo. So, it seems to be either an "Oops, we accidentally left one of the four out of this important announcement," or there is still enough of a problem with Apple that we decided not to delay the announcement any longer to wait for them.
- coldtea 11y ago
  Yes, lower in his post he mentions the JavaScriptCore guy.
bobajeff 11y ago
Yeah, it amazing to see all the vendors working on this. Asm.js has momentum and dedicated support from Chakra and SpiderMonkey but this is actually going to be created, supported with tools and promoted by all the vendors.

walterbell 11y ago

> WebAssembly has so far been a joint effort among Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, and a few other folks Is Apple participating?

andhow 11y ago
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146064 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146064
bryanlarsen 11y ago
Yes: "I’m happy to report that we at Mozilla have started working with Chromium, Edge and WebKit engineers " https://blog.mozilla.org/luke/2015/06/17/webassembly/ https://blog.mozilla.org/luke/2015/06/17/webassembly/
- michaelmior 11y ago
  This doesn't seem to necessarily imply that Apple is directly involved. But it's good to know that Safari should be included in this effort.
  - bd 11y ago
    That WebKit issue about WebAssembly was filed by engineer working on "compilers and language runtime systems at Apple": http://www.filpizlo.com/ http://www.filpizlo.com/ https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146064 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146064
    - kevinwang 11y ago
      Although that doesn't necessarily mean that Apple the company is involved, no?
      - walterbell 11y ago
        Maybe the engineer who is involved wasn't able to obtain organizational signoff in time for Apple to put their name on the list of top-level endorsers of the proposed standard? Hopefully Apple can issue a statement later.
        SiVal 11y ago
        WebAssembly has so far been a joint effort among Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, and a few other folks. I’m sorry the work was done via a private github account at first, but that was a temporary measure to help the several big companies reach consensus and buy into the long-term cooperative game that must be played to pull this off. So, the effort to get buy-in from the big companies that matter has been going on for some time, and now that we've done that, here's the result: Every big company that matters except Apple. It's not as though the list of the four big companies that matter is too long to reasonably be expected to name the fourth, and the name of the fourth is not webkit.org or Fil Pizlo. So, it seems to be either an "Oops, we accidentally left one of the four out of this important announcement," or there is still enough of a problem with Apple that we decided not to delay the announcement any longer to wait for them.
coldtea 11y ago
Yes, lower in his post he mentions the JavaScriptCore guy.

bobajeff 11y ago

Yeah, it amazing to see all the vendors working on this. Asm.js has momentum and dedicated support from Chakra and SpiderMonkey but this is actually going to be created, supported with tools and promoted by all the vendors.