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Yet another xenophobic article. What if disney hired an American contractor that replaced their old infrastructure with new age docker/cloud/YC-funded stack and

Yet another xenophobic article. What if disney hired an American contractor that replaced their old infrastructure with new age docker/cloud/YC-funded stack and were able to save costs by cutting 250 positions replacing them with 50 pure blooded americans (oh wait and another 10 pround "undocumented" immigrants). The reality is that this person is on the wrong side of efficiency argument. And he is just blaming his incompetence on others. I expect better from HN than to give voice to this xenophobic trash.

KeithBarrett 11y ago
No. I have no problem with outsourcing, or foreign labor. I've lead such efforts myself. I'm not a xenophobe. I've not in favor of scrapping H-1B Visas. It's easy for you to dismiss it by tossing labels. I'm not even angry or anti-Disney; I'm smart enough to see it for what it is. I've been in IT and a developer for a long time. I've seen it all. I didn't know how badly the H-1B system was being used to create labor forces for the maintenance of services instead of what it's for - bringing in hard to obtain talent, until I encountered it. Jobs are being lost to this, highly talented jobs, by the thousands, and it's not suppose to. It's suppose to augment your staff. Almost overnight 3/4ths of our office building were speaking a different language. Even if you don't see any of it that way; do you really think you'd approve if you had a good review, a raise, and then were told you're being replaced and you have to train your replacement or they're going to keep the severance you're entitled to by corporate policies? I don't think anyone sees that as professional or acceptable.
patorjk 11y ago
You're misunderstanding what people are upset about. The whole situation feels unfair and heartless. The employees had been doing a good job and they weren't given the option to take a pay cut to keep there jobs, instead they were given the option to quit or to work for a few months training their replacement. That kind of situation sounds horrible. The people who are replacing them can't move around as freely in the job market as normal individuals, so they're willing to work for less than someone who didn't have that restriction. And the program they're using to come over here wasn't established to replace jobs, so it being used like this seems unfair.
jgoewert 11y ago
So, "xenophobic" is the new word for being upset for when a business figures out a way to skirt laws to destroy people's lives and careers that they spent years working towards. Thanks for the dictionary update.

KeithBarrett 11y ago

No. I have no problem with outsourcing, or foreign labor. I've lead such efforts myself. I'm not a xenophobe. I've not in favor of scrapping H-1B Visas. It's easy for you to dismiss it by tossing labels. I'm not even angry or anti-Disney; I'm smart enough to see it for what it is. I've been in IT and a developer for a long time. I've seen it all. I didn't know how badly the H-1B system was being used to create labor forces for the maintenance of services instead of what it's for - bringing in hard to obtain talent, until I encountered it. Jobs are being lost to this, highly talented jobs, by the thousands, and it's not suppose to. It's suppose to augment your staff. Almost overnight 3/4ths of our office building were speaking a different language. Even if you don't see any of it that way; do you really think you'd approve if you had a good review, a raise, and then were told you're being replaced and you have to train your replacement or they're going to keep the severance you're entitled to by corporate policies? I don't think anyone sees that as professional or acceptable.

patorjk 11y ago

You're misunderstanding what people are upset about. The whole situation feels unfair and heartless. The employees had been doing a good job and they weren't given the option to take a pay cut to keep there jobs, instead they were given the option to quit or to work for a few months training their replacement. That kind of situation sounds horrible. The people who are replacing them can't move around as freely in the job market as normal individuals, so they're willing to work for less than someone who didn't have that restriction. And the program they're using to come over here wasn't established to replace jobs, so it being used like this seems unfair.

jgoewert 11y ago

So, "xenophobic" is the new word for being upset for when a business figures out a way to skirt laws to destroy people's lives and careers that they spent years working towards. Thanks for the dictionary update.