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Wait a second. I understand that they will have to let drivers negotiate rate but as a contractor why can't they enforce that you must have certain type of car?

Wait a second. I understand that they will have to let drivers negotiate rate but as a contractor why can't they enforce that you must have certain type of car? E.g. I did contracting for financial firms in NYC and certain ones expected me to wear business formals (including a tie) whenever I worked in the office. Why can't Uber have similar requirement that you must have car with certain features?

VLM 11y ago
Real contractors don't have dress codes (beyond some obvious OSHA or contracted model-type positions). This is more an indication of a fake contractor relationship with the financial firm than an indication of how contractor relationships operate. My contracts with roofers and electricians and plumbers have never specified their make and model and body style of their truck. Another point I didn't mention was they were very unhappy that the company and the contractor were in the exact same line of business, this is often an indicator of problems. A company that makes dispatching middleman software for the taxi industry couldn't possibly care less about what an end user of their software wears while at work. On the other hand, a company that's a stealth taxi driver employer is going to get all out of whack about employee dress codes, even if they call the employees "contractors". "Do it exactly how we say" is classic employer relationship. "Produce this documented contractual end result" is more typical contractor relationship. I'm not saying that wearing torn jeans and tee shirt to a financial contract job is wise, in practice dressing that way is probably a good way not to get renewed. Dress codes are for employees and if they're happy with the risk reward ratio for turning contractors into employees, well, that substantial and expensive legal risk is their problem. Maybe for "image" and marketing reasons it really is financially worth it for them.
s73v3r 11y ago
If they do, then the argument would be made that the drivers aren't contractors, as they don't have control over their own equipment. Dress codes are a different manner.

VLM 11y ago

Real contractors don't have dress codes (beyond some obvious OSHA or contracted model-type positions). This is more an indication of a fake contractor relationship with the financial firm than an indication of how contractor relationships operate. My contracts with roofers and electricians and plumbers have never specified their make and model and body style of their truck. Another point I didn't mention was they were very unhappy that the company and the contractor were in the exact same line of business, this is often an indicator of problems. A company that makes dispatching middleman software for the taxi industry couldn't possibly care less about what an end user of their software wears while at work. On the other hand, a company that's a stealth taxi driver employer is going to get all out of whack about employee dress codes, even if they call the employees "contractors". "Do it exactly how we say" is classic employer relationship. "Produce this documented contractual end result" is more typical contractor relationship. I'm not saying that wearing torn jeans and tee shirt to a financial contract job is wise, in practice dressing that way is probably a good way not to get renewed. Dress codes are for employees and if they're happy with the risk reward ratio for turning contractors into employees, well, that substantial and expensive legal risk is their problem. Maybe for "image" and marketing reasons it really is financially worth it for them.

s73v3r 11y ago

If they do, then the argument would be made that the drivers aren't contractors, as they don't have control over their own equipment. Dress codes are a different manner.