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There are a lot of people who view jobs as things that are given to someone rather than a free agreement between two parties (cue "power imbalance" objections);

There are a lot of people who view jobs as things that are given to someone rather than a free agreement between two parties (cue "power imbalance" objections); extending this out is how you end up with nonsense like businesses owe the rest of us because we allow them to produce products or services and turn a profit. So the Uber hate comes about because the idea is they are cheating. The drivers' POV is not considered; Uber holds Job Giving Magic and they have to be fair with that power. Proving a service that is in demand is not enough- They have to constantly thank us that we permit them to offer us their service. That's the idea.

s73v3r 11y ago
No. Just no. Those who consider jobs to be things that are given to someone tend to be the types that believe that the company should be able to do whatever they want. And a free agreement between two parties really cannot be reached with such a power imbalance. How many Uber drivers are able to negotiate on the cut that Uber takes of the fares? And no, providing a service that is in demand is not enough. Just because their service is in demand is no reason whatsoever to not comply with the law.
- ElComradio 11y ago
  Your first paragraph confuses me- Progressives don't tend to see jobs as being a matter of trade, but more like what people with power dole out to people without. They certainly do not view companies as being allowed to do whatever they want. Uber like any company or individual wants to get maximum value for its spend. Uber is offering $X to drivers. The drivers can opt to take $X, or to not. If enough drivers don't take $X, Uber will increase $X until enough drivers accept the pay. What is wrong with any of this? This is how YOU operate in your daily life. The law is wrong in many ways. Don't get lost in the fallacy of appeal to authority.

s73v3r 11y ago

No. Just no. Those who consider jobs to be things that are given to someone tend to be the types that believe that the company should be able to do whatever they want. And a free agreement between two parties really cannot be reached with such a power imbalance. How many Uber drivers are able to negotiate on the cut that Uber takes of the fares? And no, providing a service that is in demand is not enough. Just because their service is in demand is no reason whatsoever to not comply with the law.

ElComradio 11y ago
Your first paragraph confuses me- Progressives don't tend to see jobs as being a matter of trade, but more like what people with power dole out to people without. They certainly do not view companies as being allowed to do whatever they want. Uber like any company or individual wants to get maximum value for its spend. Uber is offering $X to drivers. The drivers can opt to take $X, or to not. If enough drivers don't take $X, Uber will increase $X until enough drivers accept the pay. What is wrong with any of this? This is how YOU operate in your daily life. The law is wrong in many ways. Don't get lost in the fallacy of appeal to authority.