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They acknowledge a (very) secular symbol of Christmas (Rudolph) as well as a secular symbol of Hanukkah. It's just that an expectation to be inclusive with thes

by rms 17y ago

They acknowledge a (very) secular symbol of Christmas (Rudolph) as well as a secular symbol of Hanukkah. It's just that an expectation to be inclusive with these types of things means an explicit acknowledgement of Judaism. And the design they have is pretty cool. The Dreidel is a secular symbol that happens to be much older than Rudolph; a menorah would have been inappropriate in the same way as an image of Jesus in the manger.

bumblebird 17y ago
>> "Do-it-yourself dreidel" It seems quite odd to include this one IMHO. I had to look it up to know what it was. Is it more widely known in USA?
- rms 17y ago
  >It seems quite odd to include this one IMHO. Chalk it up to American political correctness. I'm not sure how well it is known throughout the USA. Probably >50% of people in urban areas of heard of a dreidel.
- tjr 17y ago
  Maybe in some parts of the USA. I have a wooden dreidel on my desk. I grew up in an area with a moderately large Jewish population, and have long been interested in their culture and history.
nailer 17y ago
I'm don't think there is a secularly celebrated version of Hannukah. If you have any references for this, please state them. Christmas is celebrated as both a religious holiday (by large groups of people in the US and UK, which are large markets for Google) as well as a secular one.
- rms 17y ago
  Hanukkah is celebrated secularly by the large minority of Jews that are not religious. It's only celebrated and recognized so widely because of its close proximity to Christmas, the most important holiday in the United States, the celebration of commercialism. Here's one thing I found with a quick search, though I suspect most secularly celebrated versions of Hanukkah are not done in such an organized fashion. http://forestparkreview.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=38&ArticleID=4555&TM=9510.111 http://forestparkreview.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSect...

by rms 17y ago

bumblebird 17y ago

>> "Do-it-yourself dreidel" It seems quite odd to include this one IMHO. I had to look it up to know what it was. Is it more widely known in USA?

rms 17y ago
>It seems quite odd to include this one IMHO. Chalk it up to American political correctness. I'm not sure how well it is known throughout the USA. Probably >50% of people in urban areas of heard of a dreidel.
tjr 17y ago
Maybe in some parts of the USA. I have a wooden dreidel on my desk. I grew up in an area with a moderately large Jewish population, and have long been interested in their culture and history.

nailer 17y ago

I'm don't think there is a secularly celebrated version of Hannukah. If you have any references for this, please state them. Christmas is celebrated as both a religious holiday (by large groups of people in the US and UK, which are large markets for Google) as well as a secular one.

rms 17y ago
Hanukkah is celebrated secularly by the large minority of Jews that are not religious. It's only celebrated and recognized so widely because of its close proximity to Christmas, the most important holiday in the United States, the celebration of commercialism. Here's one thing I found with a quick search, though I suspect most secularly celebrated versions of Hanukkah are not done in such an organized fashion. http://forestparkreview.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=38&ArticleID=4555&TM=9510.111 http://forestparkreview.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSect...