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For those who aren't interested in installing silverlight, it's just a street view clone, but much slower, with a fraction of the coverage, more obvious shearin

by carbon8 17y ago

For those who aren't interested in installing silverlight, it's just a street view clone, but much slower, with a fraction of the coverage, more obvious shearing when you move around and a blue circle with a person icon instead of a simple white circle for navigation.

anigbrowl 17y ago
I don't think that's really fair. I'm not finding it significantly slower here, and it handles some things worse, but others better - eg try downtown San Francisco and spin around to look up at the tops of skyscrapers...the Bing thing is handling perspective deformation much better, whereas Google Streetview introduces a lot of messy artifacts as the 3d parameters change. It is limited and it's still beta-feeling, but I'm all in favor of the competition...having two large companies duke it out to provide the best virtual rendition of the world can only be a good thing. (On a side note, I wonder how long before this gets used for ad placement...when I'm looking at a city street and see a store with a big Pepsi sign outside, why don't I get an ad for Pepsi if I click on it? The technology exists; if I screencap a region of interest and drop the result into Tineye, it's pretty good at finding matches for corporate logos and giving me a link to their website...)
- carbon8 17y ago
  "I'm not finding it significantly slower here" I'm on a relatively late model macbook pro using safari with a fresh silverlight install and it's dramatically slower than street view, enough that it's difficult to navigate around. "the Bing thing is handling perspective deformation much better, whereas Google Streetview introduces a lot of messy artifacts as the 3d parameters change." I don't see what you are referring to. What I do see is poorer quality from the top camera on google ( http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=san+francisco&sll=41.88295,-87.630901&sspn=0.017956,0.034676&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=San+Francisco,+California&ll=37.792524,-122.399797&spn=0.008546,0.051026&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=37.793093,-122.399935&panoid=H7XLvZ0VvCQ4UWveoS4SDQ&cbp=12,27.09,,0,-30.22 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&#38... ), but I also see artifacts and whole blurred sections (like frosted glass) of images on bing, though it's apparently not possible to link to individual views. And other than what I mentioned, it really, actually is just a straight up street view clone. It's not a value judgement, it's just a fact. One huge company cloned something created by another huge company. I'm not sure why any of these statements would be controversial to anyone unless they had a stake in the success of one over the other.
  - anigbrowl 17y ago
    Well, I have no shares or commercial ties to Microsoft or Google :) and I did describe it as 'street view' to begin with...I certainly don't mean to imply it's anything other than a clone. Both have artifacts, I just like some minor technical aspects about the Bing offering but I'm not trying to sell it. I only posted it because Google hasn't had any competition for that functionality up to now. I'm using Chrome in Win7 btw...I feel that with both Chrome (dev channel) and Silverlight the fact that you're on a Mac might explain the performance lag, seeing as neither company optimizes for that platform.
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chollida1 17y ago
For what it's worth, I found the speed to be much faster than Google's street view. Perhaps it matters where you live?
- carbon8 17y ago
  That's not the cause. I'm in Chicago right now. Street view navigation is smooth, quick and with a blur effect, while bing navigation is chunky, slow and has heavy shearing. Are you on windows? I'm not. It could be heavily optimized for windows.
snprbob86 17y ago
I'm not all that impressed by the street view clone. The 3D geometry has potential, but the shearing/tearing is highly objectionable to me. What is impressive, however, is the 3D buildings as seen in the isometric views: http://imgur.com/eySVw.jpg http://imgur.com/eySVw.jpg It all feels very SimCity!

by carbon8 17y ago

anigbrowl 17y ago

I don't think that's really fair. I'm not finding it significantly slower here, and it handles some things worse, but others better - eg try downtown San Francisco and spin around to look up at the tops of skyscrapers...the Bing thing is handling perspective deformation much better, whereas Google Streetview introduces a lot of messy artifacts as the 3d parameters change. It is limited and it's still beta-feeling, but I'm all in favor of the competition...having two large companies duke it out to provide the best virtual rendition of the world can only be a good thing. (On a side note, I wonder how long before this gets used for ad placement...when I'm looking at a city street and see a store with a big Pepsi sign outside, why don't I get an ad for Pepsi if I click on it? The technology exists; if I screencap a region of interest and drop the result into Tineye, it's pretty good at finding matches for corporate logos and giving me a link to their website...)

carbon8 17y ago
"I'm not finding it significantly slower here" I'm on a relatively late model macbook pro using safari with a fresh silverlight install and it's dramatically slower than street view, enough that it's difficult to navigate around. "the Bing thing is handling perspective deformation much better, whereas Google Streetview introduces a lot of messy artifacts as the 3d parameters change." I don't see what you are referring to. What I do see is poorer quality from the top camera on google ( http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=san+francisco&sll=41.88295,-87.630901&sspn=0.017956,0.034676&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=San+Francisco,+California&ll=37.792524,-122.399797&spn=0.008546,0.051026&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=37.793093,-122.399935&panoid=H7XLvZ0VvCQ4UWveoS4SDQ&cbp=12,27.09,,0,-30.22 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&#38... ), but I also see artifacts and whole blurred sections (like frosted glass) of images on bing, though it's apparently not possible to link to individual views. And other than what I mentioned, it really, actually is just a straight up street view clone. It's not a value judgement, it's just a fact. One huge company cloned something created by another huge company. I'm not sure why any of these statements would be controversial to anyone unless they had a stake in the success of one over the other.
- anigbrowl 17y ago
  Well, I have no shares or commercial ties to Microsoft or Google :) and I did describe it as 'street view' to begin with...I certainly don't mean to imply it's anything other than a clone. Both have artifacts, I just like some minor technical aspects about the Bing offering but I'm not trying to sell it. I only posted it because Google hasn't had any competition for that functionality up to now. I'm using Chrome in Win7 btw...I feel that with both Chrome (dev channel) and Silverlight the fact that you're on a Mac might explain the performance lag, seeing as neither company optimizes for that platform.
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chollida1 17y ago

For what it's worth, I found the speed to be much faster than Google's street view. Perhaps it matters where you live?

carbon8 17y ago
That's not the cause. I'm in Chicago right now. Street view navigation is smooth, quick and with a blur effect, while bing navigation is chunky, slow and has heavy shearing. Are you on windows? I'm not. It could be heavily optimized for windows.

snprbob86 17y ago

I'm not all that impressed by the street view clone. The 3D geometry has potential, but the shearing/tearing is highly objectionable to me. What is impressive, however, is the 3D buildings as seen in the isometric views: http://imgur.com/eySVw.jpg http://imgur.com/eySVw.jpg It all feels very SimCity!