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As an aside, how does Linus come across as a grouch? Like any other normal human being that expresses a range of emotions, he might have exhibited an imperfect
by ksk 11y ago
As an aside, how does Linus come across as a grouch? Like any other normal human being that expresses a range of emotions, he might have exhibited an imperfect control on his temper/tone. People are way too judgemental / thin skinned these days.
- Trufa 11y agoI am a very thick skinned person, I like people joking about me and like to joke about others, but let's get not confused about Linus, he's quite a character, I personally really like him (as far as I know him, basically his internet persona), but I can perfectly understand how it doesn't fit with a lot of people. I find the following phrase hilarious: >> I find people who think open-source is anti-capitalism to be kind of naive and slightly stupid. Now, even if I find it particularly funny, I'm not sure if that's the best face for open source, maybe someone less confrontative and more politically correct would be better suited, but he is who he is, and his contribution to open source, well, need no explanation. Even so, I wonder if Linux and open source in general would benefit from having a more friendly / approachable face and have Linus in the technical side of things. It's not something that's easy to change though because it wasn't a decision, it's something that just is.
- ksk 11y agoWell, I think that instead people should be more accepting towards others' personal imperfections. Political correctness should be avoided at all costs because it's by definition a kind of dishonest manipulation.
- cpncrunch 11y agoI don't think it's "political correctness" to prefer not to be verbally abused. Linus has admitted that he doesn't care about people: http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/linus-torvalds-on-why-he-isnt-nice-i-dont-care-about-you/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+All+content%29 http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/linus-torvalds-on-wh...
- ksk 11y ago>I don't think it's "political correctness" to prefer not to be verbally abused. Okay? And? Nobody said that. I was replying to someone thinking we should have a more 'politically correct' open source face. Please try and understand what is being said before replying.
- cpncrunch 11y agoI did "try and understand" before reply, but sometimes it is difficult to discern exact meaning. You said we should accept others imperfections, so I'm assuming you meant Linus' imperfections. That is what I was replying to. I don't think it's acceptable that people should be verbally abused, and we shouldn't "accept" it as you say.
- forgottenpass 11y agoAs an aside, how does Linus come across as a grouch? "Reporters" drive clicks by pretending to be outraged. Therefore they have to build up a set of standards and narratives which will make readers find Linus' behavior unacceptable, and dismiss Linus' explanations as just being a grouch. Once readers buy into the narrative, they see the world through that lens. Side note: multiply this by all the news sites that use snark and moral outrage. That's how you get thin skin and judgmental in society. It's just like how the bigger news organizations exploit and reenforce a sense of fear in their viewers.
- javert 11y agoI don't like working with people who are unpleasant to work with. Of course, if you are really good, he isn't unpleasant to you. I'm not that good, so I suppose the fact that I wouldn't want to work with Linus would be a success story from his point of view.