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> EDIT: There's a reason Soylent is vegan; not to appease animal lovers, but because its healthier for you. More likely, it's because it's easier to utilize wi
by nkozyra 11y ago
> EDIT: There's a reason Soylent is vegan; not to appease animal lovers, but because its healthier for you.
More likely, it's because it's easier to utilize without spoilage.
Also, the cancers you refer to are not specific to meat, they're specific to cooked (moreso charred) food.
Milk and eggs provide a complete protein that's hard to find elsewhere without doing a lot of pairing.
That said, the "emaciated" point is probably moreso about the "low fat" part of the comment. Fat is critical for hormone production among other things, and it would be very hard to be a "powerlifter deadlifting hundreds of lbs" without adequate fat intake. More importantly, saturated fat (and specifically dietary cholesterol, the kind found only in meat and dairy) is particularly well utilized for hormone production.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6538617 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6538617
- toomuchtodo 11y agoThe fat intake you allude to is entirely possible on a vegan diet. Saturated fats are exactly the fats you should not be eating. "Saturated fats are linked to increases in low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, which is positively associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disease. Specifically, saturated fats have been shown to block the expression of LDL receptors[3], which ultimately prevents this unhealthy type of cholesterol from being filtered out of the bloodstream." https://faq.soylent.com/hc/en-us/articles/203798419-1-5-Macronutrient-Energy-Ratio https://faq.soylent.com/hc/en-us/articles/203798419-1-5-Macr...
- gadders 11y agoI think that view of saturated fats is falling out of favour.
- nkozyra 11y ago> Saturated fats are exactly the fats you should not be eating. Wide swath generalization at best, categorically untrue at worst. Keep in mind - if nothing else - there are a lot of very different and unique saturated fats. A 2014 systematic review looking at observational studies of dietary intake of fatty acids, observational studies of measured fatty acid levels in the blood, and intervention studies of polyunsaturated fat supplementation concludes that the finding ″do not support cardiovascular guidelines that promote high consumption of long-chain omega-3 and omega-6 and polyunsaturated fatty acids and suggest reduced consumption of total saturated fatty acids.″" http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638 http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638 Conclusion: Current evidence does not clearly support cardiovascular guidelines that encourage high consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids and low consumption of total saturated fats.
- reagency 11y agoMeat is always cooked and often charred. Non-meat is not so that way.
- dragonwriter 11y ago> Meat is always cooked No, its not. Raw preparations of meat are a thing.
- nkozyra 11y agoI could quibble with aspects of this, but my point remains - it's not the meat that is associated with cancer, it's the preparation.
- mikeyouse 11y agoRed meat is and has been associated with cancer for decades, they've recently found the causative link and it has nothing to do with the preparation: blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2015/01/02/red-meat-cancer-immune/#.VYBs8mWCOnM
- nkozyra 11y agoIf you read that and concluded they've found the causative link between red meat and cancer I'd implore you to read more about it.
- mikeyouse 11y agoMy original statement was inadvertently strong, they've found a causative link between red meat and cancer.. not necessarily the link that explains 100% of the association or anything of the sort, but a link that's universal across red meat, is dose dependent, and is readily repeatable. It really is a landmark study: http://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2014-12-29-sugar-molecule-in-red-meat-linked-to-cancer.aspx http://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2014-12-29-sugar-...
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