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What a load of rubbish. First of all, losing weight is not the goal itself, it's one of the means to the real goal, which is to be healthy. It's not about eatin

by vilmosi 11y ago

What a load of rubbish. First of all, losing weight is not the goal itself, it's one of the means to the real goal, which is to be healthy. It's not about eating less, it's about eating healthy. Exercise is absolutely essential to be healthy, regardless of weight. Exercise is more important that eating less. What a dumb suggestion.

gitaarik 11y ago
But it doesn't mean that when you're healthy your automatically not overweight. You can be pretty healthy having a lot of fat. The point is that in the past you gained the fat by eating too much, so if you want to lose that, you should eat too less.
- vilmosi 11y ago
  Who cares about overweight? It's about being healthy, but people forgot that. A lot of people from the gym are classified as overweight, with fat or not, but they are healthy as a horse and look good as well. This concern about losing weight has gone way too far.
  - gitaarik 11y ago
    Well, whether you call it overweight or not, some people just want to lose fat, for whatever reason.
    - vilmosi 11y ago
      Fair enough, everyone has different goals. Some people really just want to lose fat for the sake of it.
romanovcode 11y ago
Every person has its own goals.
tjogin 11y ago
Being overweight is unhealthy, it can't be done in a healthy way; not in the long term. While it is possible for an overweight person to not have any of the common health problems associated with being overweight, that is temporary. If you are overweight, you will develop those health problems, it's just a matter of time. It's basically like smoking and cancer; not all smokers have cancer or get cancer, but there is no such thing as smoking in a healthy way, and if you do it, then the best way to get healthier and to prevent developing health problems in the future is to stop doing it. Some people can be overweight without developing health problems for a long time, even for a decade or two, but it's just a matter of time. Reducing your bodyweight is easily the best way to improve your health, and to make sure you don't develop health problems in the future. And, vice versa, many of the things we associate with bad health don't become health problems at all for people who stay lean. Food that we know to have strong correlations with bad health, like eating red meat, sodium, cholesterol, etc, are only really problematic if you also over eat. Exercise is great, it's terrific, but not over eating is much more important. The saying is true, "you can't outrun a bad diet".
- vilmosi 11y ago
  >>> but there is no such thing as smoking in a healthy way But there is a way to be overweight in a healthy. Basically everyone at the gym is overweight (officially anyway) because of their muscle mass. >>> Exercise is great, it's terrific, but not over eating is much more important. True. But there is a difference between over eating and under eating. I never said we should over eat, I just don't agree with under eating.
  - tjogin 11y ago
    No, having muscle doesn't make you overweight, no matter how much of it you have. The word overweight means to have excess fat, specifically. Im not sure what you mean by under eating, but eating fewer calories than you spend is the only way to lose fat, other than surgery.
    - vilmosi 11y ago
      >>> The word overweight means to have excess fat, specifically. Dictionary definition "above a weight considered normal or desirable." The WHO definition "a BMI greater than or equal to 25 is overweight" Not sure what definition you use, most gym-heads are technically overweight. But discussing semantics is not the topic here.

by vilmosi 11y ago

gitaarik 11y ago

But it doesn't mean that when you're healthy your automatically not overweight. You can be pretty healthy having a lot of fat. The point is that in the past you gained the fat by eating too much, so if you want to lose that, you should eat too less.

vilmosi 11y ago
Who cares about overweight? It's about being healthy, but people forgot that. A lot of people from the gym are classified as overweight, with fat or not, but they are healthy as a horse and look good as well. This concern about losing weight has gone way too far.
- gitaarik 11y ago
  Well, whether you call it overweight or not, some people just want to lose fat, for whatever reason.
  - vilmosi 11y ago
    Fair enough, everyone has different goals. Some people really just want to lose fat for the sake of it.

romanovcode 11y ago

Every person has its own goals.

tjogin 11y ago

Being overweight is unhealthy, it can't be done in a healthy way; not in the long term. While it is possible for an overweight person to not have any of the common health problems associated with being overweight, that is temporary. If you are overweight, you will develop those health problems, it's just a matter of time. It's basically like smoking and cancer; not all smokers have cancer or get cancer, but there is no such thing as smoking in a healthy way, and if you do it, then the best way to get healthier and to prevent developing health problems in the future is to stop doing it. Some people can be overweight without developing health problems for a long time, even for a decade or two, but it's just a matter of time. Reducing your bodyweight is easily the best way to improve your health, and to make sure you don't develop health problems in the future. And, vice versa, many of the things we associate with bad health don't become health problems at all for people who stay lean. Food that we know to have strong correlations with bad health, like eating red meat, sodium, cholesterol, etc, are only really problematic if you also over eat. Exercise is great, it's terrific, but not over eating is much more important. The saying is true, "you can't outrun a bad diet".

vilmosi 11y ago
>>> but there is no such thing as smoking in a healthy way But there is a way to be overweight in a healthy. Basically everyone at the gym is overweight (officially anyway) because of their muscle mass. >>> Exercise is great, it's terrific, but not over eating is much more important. True. But there is a difference between over eating and under eating. I never said we should over eat, I just don't agree with under eating.
- tjogin 11y ago
  No, having muscle doesn't make you overweight, no matter how much of it you have. The word overweight means to have excess fat, specifically. Im not sure what you mean by under eating, but eating fewer calories than you spend is the only way to lose fat, other than surgery.
  - vilmosi 11y ago
    >>> The word overweight means to have excess fat, specifically. Dictionary definition "above a weight considered normal or desirable." The WHO definition "a BMI greater than or equal to 25 is overweight" Not sure what definition you use, most gym-heads are technically overweight. But discussing semantics is not the topic here.