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how about when prognosticators refer to iPhone users as "people who have wet dreams about Steve Jobs?" by your logic, that could have contributed to why certain

how about when prognosticators refer to iPhone users as "people who have wet dreams about Steve Jobs?" by your logic, that could have contributed to why certain predictions about said users were so disastrously wrong, yes? http://mattmaroon.com/2007/05/03/why-the-iphone-will-be-a-flop/ http://mattmaroon.com/2007/05/03/why-the-iphone-will-be-a-fl...

mattmaroon 17y ago
The iPhone model I referred to was a flop. It was on track to underperform Apple's predictions. It sold very few units. And it even only got as far as it did when they cut the price so soon after launch that the people who did buy it right away were pissed off. Price was a large part of my argument, and I'd argue still that I was not incorrect. The original iPhone was clearly a disappointment to Apple. The 3G unit was not a flop.
- allenbrunson 17y ago
  Man! How hard do you have to pretzel yourself to refer to the iPhone as a flop? So they didn't make as much money on the first one as they did with later models, so what? They were completely changing all the rules, so it's not much wonder that it took a couple of iterations to zero in on the best revenue model. And you didn't address the real point of my comment at all: it's bad to call a Facebook game "stupid," but it's fine to call iPhone users "people who have wet dreams about Steve Jobs." You are blinding yourself to why Apple is successful, which is costing you.
  - mattmaroon 17y ago
    No pretzelling involved. I specifically was talking about the iPhone that was just about to released, as evident from the date on the post, and said that only Apple fanboys would buy it. That turned out to be largely true. You can't take my statement and apply it to future models or other Apple products and then marvel at their incorrectness. Well, you can (and did) but it's not fruitful. There's a big difference between a $500-600 unit (with 2 yr contract) that has no 3g and no App Store and a $200 unit (with 2 yr contract) that has 3g and an App Store. They're the same device in name only. One is priced for businesses, but without business features. The other is priced for consumers, and with much more consumer appeal to boot. One was a flop, the other a roaring success. I don't think that only Apple fanboys buy the current iPhone and have never said that. And I'd guess between us, I have a much better understanding of why Apple is successful, as you probably vastly understimate marketing and cult appeal.

mattmaroon 17y ago

The iPhone model I referred to was a flop. It was on track to underperform Apple's predictions. It sold very few units. And it even only got as far as it did when they cut the price so soon after launch that the people who did buy it right away were pissed off. Price was a large part of my argument, and I'd argue still that I was not incorrect. The original iPhone was clearly a disappointment to Apple. The 3G unit was not a flop.

allenbrunson 17y ago
Man! How hard do you have to pretzel yourself to refer to the iPhone as a flop? So they didn't make as much money on the first one as they did with later models, so what? They were completely changing all the rules, so it's not much wonder that it took a couple of iterations to zero in on the best revenue model. And you didn't address the real point of my comment at all: it's bad to call a Facebook game "stupid," but it's fine to call iPhone users "people who have wet dreams about Steve Jobs." You are blinding yourself to why Apple is successful, which is costing you.
- mattmaroon 17y ago
  No pretzelling involved. I specifically was talking about the iPhone that was just about to released, as evident from the date on the post, and said that only Apple fanboys would buy it. That turned out to be largely true. You can't take my statement and apply it to future models or other Apple products and then marvel at their incorrectness. Well, you can (and did) but it's not fruitful. There's a big difference between a $500-600 unit (with 2 yr contract) that has no 3g and no App Store and a $200 unit (with 2 yr contract) that has 3g and an App Store. They're the same device in name only. One is priced for businesses, but without business features. The other is priced for consumers, and with much more consumer appeal to boot. One was a flop, the other a roaring success. I don't think that only Apple fanboys buy the current iPhone and have never said that. And I'd guess between us, I have a much better understanding of why Apple is successful, as you probably vastly understimate marketing and cult appeal.