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I've just started CBT to hopefully fix my broken spirit, the article nailed my symptoms. I'm not sure my staying indoors in a darkened room and sighing a lot is

I've just started CBT to hopefully fix my broken spirit, the article nailed my symptoms. I'm not sure my staying indoors in a darkened room and sighing a lot is helping me to focus on anything though.

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tim333 11y ago
Good luck. I did some and found it helpful. I kind guess personally that it works by a kind of neural network rewiring. Before CBT some neurones are taking input, processing it as indicating things being crappy and directly signalling that to the older reptilian bits of the brain that deal with that, without conscious awareness. By consciously becoming aware of the things are crappy reasoning you can argue against it and rewire those networks. At least that's my theory on it.
- empressplay 11y ago
  That's essentially mindfulness too -- you catch a negative thought and then you construct a counter-argument against it to placate the reptile-brain. It's like living with a little child who's prone to temper-tantrums. Whatever it can take poorly it will, and it's your responsibility to re-frame things in a good light quickly.
  - saw-lau 11y ago
    +1 for a combination of both CBT and mindfulness. Both have really helped me with my depression.
  - d-equivalence 11y ago
    But mindfulness is not about re-framing or answering back with an argument. Its exactly the opposite!
empressplay 11y ago
Unfortunately depressive rumination can become self-referential -- that is, while you might be more analytical and capable of coming to extraordinary conclusions about things, that analysis can easily turn against you and become self-criticism about your competence to produce anything meaningful. It's a double-edged sword.
ep103 11y ago
Get out into the sun. I don't know why, but something about about getting a minimum amount of sunlight (hour?) every day improves my mood immensely throughout the rest of the day. The Seasonal Affective Disorder is real
- geon 11y ago
  So is vitamin D deficiency. Get some sun (or pills)!
  - ionised 11y ago
    From what I understand (maybe incorrectly) vitamin D supplements cannot make up for the vitamin D one would normally get from sunlight. Our bodies don't process it in the same way that makes it useful to us. Which is a shame because I spend 90% of my time indoors.
bayesianhorse 11y ago
I don't like to think about the spirit/mind/brain being "broken" in case of depression. Depression causes problems, but often the only way to get rid of the cause is to alleviate the problems. Everybody, including those described to be mentally healthy, can and should improve and evolve their mind, and CBT can be effective for that.

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tim333 11y ago

Good luck. I did some and found it helpful. I kind guess personally that it works by a kind of neural network rewiring. Before CBT some neurones are taking input, processing it as indicating things being crappy and directly signalling that to the older reptilian bits of the brain that deal with that, without conscious awareness. By consciously becoming aware of the things are crappy reasoning you can argue against it and rewire those networks. At least that's my theory on it.

empressplay 11y ago
That's essentially mindfulness too -- you catch a negative thought and then you construct a counter-argument against it to placate the reptile-brain. It's like living with a little child who's prone to temper-tantrums. Whatever it can take poorly it will, and it's your responsibility to re-frame things in a good light quickly.
- saw-lau 11y ago
  +1 for a combination of both CBT and mindfulness. Both have really helped me with my depression.
- d-equivalence 11y ago
  But mindfulness is not about re-framing or answering back with an argument. Its exactly the opposite!

empressplay 11y ago

Unfortunately depressive rumination can become self-referential -- that is, while you might be more analytical and capable of coming to extraordinary conclusions about things, that analysis can easily turn against you and become self-criticism about your competence to produce anything meaningful. It's a double-edged sword.

ep103 11y ago

Get out into the sun. I don't know why, but something about about getting a minimum amount of sunlight (hour?) every day improves my mood immensely throughout the rest of the day. The Seasonal Affective Disorder is real

geon 11y ago
So is vitamin D deficiency. Get some sun (or pills)!
- ionised 11y ago
  From what I understand (maybe incorrectly) vitamin D supplements cannot make up for the vitamin D one would normally get from sunlight. Our bodies don't process it in the same way that makes it useful to us. Which is a shame because I spend 90% of my time indoors.

bayesianhorse 11y ago

I don't like to think about the spirit/mind/brain being "broken" in case of depression. Depression causes problems, but often the only way to get rid of the cause is to alleviate the problems. Everybody, including those described to be mentally healthy, can and should improve and evolve their mind, and CBT can be effective for that.