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Good that Google reverted it back and don't bring it back - keep it optional. I am just moving away from IE11 (as Edge won't come to Win7) and Chrome is a good

by castell 11y ago

Good that Google reverted it back and don't bring it back - keep it optional. I am just moving away from IE11 (as Edge won't come to Win7) and Chrome is a good alternative and the bookmark functionality was fine. If there would be Servo build for Win7, I would use it.

h43k3r 11y ago
I asked this question ( Why no Edge for Win 7) to one of the developers concerned with Edge development during BUILD Tour. He told me that Edge is built on the Universal Windows Apps Platform which is going to be launched with Win 10. So because of its dependency, it won't be possible for edge to run on Win 7. The good thing about this is that MS is using the same platform that they will give to developers, to build Edge. So people shouldn't hope that at some point Edge will come to Linux or Max OSX.
- wlesieutre 11y ago
  The other good thing is that Windows 10 is a free upgrade, so if users want the new browser there isn't a purchase barrier stopping them. Doesn't apply to enterprise licensees, but enterprises aren't known for upgrading to new browser versions even when they're available, so no huge loss there.
- Flenser 11y ago
  > the Universal Windows Apps Platform which is going to be launched with Win 10 ... it won't be possible ... to run on Win 7 "Universal App Platform" Oh, the irony. Thanks for letting us know why Edge won't be on Win 7.
Manishearth 11y ago
> If there would be Servo build for Win7, I would use it. Glad to see this confidence in Servo, but .... Servo isn't ready to be used as a proper browser, even if it did work on Windows (I've been casually trying to port some of it for the past few days, though I'm not familiar enough with MSVC to really do this properly and mingw doesn't work for some of our deps). It's still missing a lot of DOM features and CSS. Most of these aren't hard to implement, just that there are a lot of them and we haven't gotten around to it. Its chrome (chrome = stuff that is not the engine), servo-shell (https://github.com/glennw/servo-shell https://github.com/glennw/servo-shell) is pretty rudimentary too. Servo is a browser _engine_ , so stuff like bookmarks are out of its purview. Projects like browser.html and servo-shell can provide these, though. Otherwise I believe it works with the Chromium chrome via CEF. I contribute a lot to Servo and still don't use it for regular browsing. I do use release builds for googling things whilst studying (generally I just need to load simple html pages and wikipedia, which work awesomely), but not much more. As more and more features get implemented, this should change though :)
- castell 11y ago
  I would consider to contribute to Servo and Servo-shell. But my dev PC is Win7. And dog fooding only works when you use it for your own usage too.
  - Manishearth 11y ago
    servo-shell should work in Firefox too if you want to contribute.

by castell 11y ago

h43k3r 11y ago

I asked this question ( Why no Edge for Win 7) to one of the developers concerned with Edge development during BUILD Tour. He told me that Edge is built on the Universal Windows Apps Platform which is going to be launched with Win 10. So because of its dependency, it won't be possible for edge to run on Win 7. The good thing about this is that MS is using the same platform that they will give to developers, to build Edge. So people shouldn't hope that at some point Edge will come to Linux or Max OSX.

wlesieutre 11y ago
The other good thing is that Windows 10 is a free upgrade, so if users want the new browser there isn't a purchase barrier stopping them. Doesn't apply to enterprise licensees, but enterprises aren't known for upgrading to new browser versions even when they're available, so no huge loss there.
Flenser 11y ago
> the Universal Windows Apps Platform which is going to be launched with Win 10 ... it won't be possible ... to run on Win 7 "Universal App Platform" Oh, the irony. Thanks for letting us know why Edge won't be on Win 7.

Manishearth 11y ago

> If there would be Servo build for Win7, I would use it. Glad to see this confidence in Servo, but .... Servo isn't ready to be used as a proper browser, even if it did work on Windows (I've been casually trying to port some of it for the past few days, though I'm not familiar enough with MSVC to really do this properly and mingw doesn't work for some of our deps). It's still missing a lot of DOM features and CSS. Most of these aren't hard to implement, just that there are a lot of them and we haven't gotten around to it. Its chrome (chrome = stuff that is not the engine), servo-shell (https://github.com/glennw/servo-shell https://github.com/glennw/servo-shell) is pretty rudimentary too. Servo is a browser _engine_ , so stuff like bookmarks are out of its purview. Projects like browser.html and servo-shell can provide these, though. Otherwise I believe it works with the Chromium chrome via CEF. I contribute a lot to Servo and still don't use it for regular browsing. I do use release builds for googling things whilst studying (generally I just need to load simple html pages and wikipedia, which work awesomely), but not much more. As more and more features get implemented, this should change though :)

castell 11y ago
I would consider to contribute to Servo and Servo-shell. But my dev PC is Win7. And dog fooding only works when you use it for your own usage too.
- Manishearth 11y ago
  servo-shell should work in Firefox too if you want to contribute.