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> This is one of the problems with the narrative. "Reddit" is a disparate set of small communities loosely bound by some overlapping users and a URL. > America

> This is one of the problems with the narrative. "Reddit" is a disparate set of small communities loosely bound by some overlapping users and a URL. > America is bad. It's my understanding that when you visit reddit without an account, or when you first sign up for an account, you get a list of default subscriptions and it is up to the user to manually unsubscribe from the defaults and manually subscribe to different subreddits so your analogy isn't very accurate. A better analogy would be something like "every new immigrant to America is placed in Wilmington Deleware with $40 in food vouchers." Unless I'm misunderstanding, all new users get the same experience and in my opinion it is a bad one.

vonklaus 11y ago
Rather than go back and forth, the main thing I was trying to convey is that I enjoy free speech on the internet. I have become accustom to expressing myself on reddit within the particular subcommunities I visit. I think that deletion of content, censorship and capitulating to groups that feel marginalized will ultimately destroy the site. Communities form all over the internet, reddit isn't "good" or "bad", but it will stop existing if they continue to capitulate like this.
- minikites 11y ago
  Do you think the right to free speech is more important than the right of marginalized people to feel safe? The older I get and the more I learn about how tough it is to be non-white and non-cis-male, the more I agree with the European approach to free speech (i.e. with limits, like you can't say the holocaust didn't happen)
  - vonklaus 11y ago
    > Do you think the right to free speech is more important than the right of marginalized people to feel safe? Yes.
  - JoeAltmaier 11y ago
    One is fundamental to the other. If an official source decides what if 'free' and what is not, there's a chilling effect and, in the degenerate case, no freedom at all.

vonklaus 11y ago

Rather than go back and forth, the main thing I was trying to convey is that I enjoy free speech on the internet. I have become accustom to expressing myself on reddit within the particular subcommunities I visit. I think that deletion of content, censorship and capitulating to groups that feel marginalized will ultimately destroy the site. Communities form all over the internet, reddit isn't "good" or "bad", but it will stop existing if they continue to capitulate like this.

minikites 11y ago
Do you think the right to free speech is more important than the right of marginalized people to feel safe? The older I get and the more I learn about how tough it is to be non-white and non-cis-male, the more I agree with the European approach to free speech (i.e. with limits, like you can't say the holocaust didn't happen)
- vonklaus 11y ago
  > Do you think the right to free speech is more important than the right of marginalized people to feel safe? Yes.
- JoeAltmaier 11y ago
  One is fundamental to the other. If an official source decides what if 'free' and what is not, there's a chilling effect and, in the degenerate case, no freedom at all.