> Also note the absence of even a single concrete example where actual harm for the security and safety of a western countrie's citizens was caused. I'm no exp

> Also note the absence of even a single concrete example where actual harm for the security and safety of a western countrie's citizens was caused. I'm no expert on geopolitics (none of us are), but I'm fairly certain that kind of thing cannot be quantified. It's like trying to quantify how much love you have for someone. The harm isn't direct and measurable, any harm would be almost entirely indirect. Before the leaks, maybe Russia wouldn't have invaded Crimea because they were unsure what the U.S/NATO plans are or were and didn't have enough information to move. After the leaks, they had all the information they needed and moved forward with their plan. Or maybe they invaded precisely because they had the evidence which showed the U.S would be unlikely to act. Those kinds of things aren't inherently measurable so quantifying them is a futile endeavor. I'm no fan of the government but to pretend there are zero negative consequences for us as a country is ignorant and naive. Like it or not, there is a bigger picture and ignoring it doesn't mean it goes away or ceases to exist.