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> I have no doubt they would be even better in a good IDE. Do you really think the best programmers spend enough time refactoring for the use of an IDE to help

• dempseye 11y ago
  Is refactoring a bad thing now?
  • riquito 11y ago
    >> Do you really think the best programmers spend enough time refactoring for the use of an IDE to help? > Is refactoring a bad thing now? It isn't, he just intended that the best programmers refactor less (since they are the best they must get things right or better predict the future more often then the others).
    • dempseye 11y ago
      Seems rather unlikely. Do they only have to work on code written by themselves or other great programmers?
      • duaneb 11y ago
        "less". If most of your job is refactoring you should probably find a new job because you aren't getting any work done.
  • duaneb 11y ago
    Not at all, but assumably it doesn't take up most your time. It's just an easily solvable subset of coding operations.
• tomjen3 11y ago
  Refactoring but also code completion (which means you don't have to worry about remembering if the method is add or push) etc. And yes I know those I work with do, because we work on the same codebase and I see their commits.
  • slrz 11y ago
    If you don't even know the name of the function you want to call, how likely is it that you're aware of its constraints and failure modes? But then, that's probably why those IDEs ship with sophisticated debuggers, right? ☺
    • realharo 11y ago
      It's a good thing then that those IDEs can show the method's documentation right next to the autocomplete list as you're browsing through it.
• serge2k 11y ago
  Absolutely. They design it well the first time. They refactor is to a better design as needed as new requirements arise.
  • duaneb 11y ago
    Sure, but assumably they do something ASIDE from refactor.