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The money isn't in the ads or the subscriptions it is in the tips. I wonder if they have a system for that.

calebegg 11y ago
Youtube already has that. It's called "Fan funding": https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6052077?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6052077?hl=en
- InclinedPlane 11y ago
  Wow. That is incredibly half-assed considering how important it should be. The contrast with twitch's system or with patreon or kickstarter could not be larger.
  - timothya 11y ago
    Out of curiosity, what does Twitch do differently than this?
    - zanny 11y ago
      They have a big sub button, and give streamers tools to modify the experience for subs. You can give them sub only emotes that they can use everywhere, or you could put your chat in sub only mode, or you could make recorded videos that are sub only. Even that is not coming close to realizing the potential of such crowdfunding, but it beats a random tip button that sometimes doesn't even show up.
      - kbar13 11y ago
        well to be fair subscriptions != donations
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VieElm 11y ago
Twitch doesn't make any money from streamer tips as most of that is done through a link to PayPal. Twitch has no tip system. Popular streamers like Lirik have said they much prefer getting a subscription through Twitch than a donation as it's much more reliable. Some streamers like Summit1G probably does make way more money through tips because of their personality some people just throw money at them, but again none of that goes to Twitch.
- fraserharris 11y ago
  Do not assume PayPal is not kicking back a % of donations to Twitch. PayPal does this for e-commerce platforms that make PayPal integrations easy. For some e-commerce platforms this hidden cut of PayPal's transaction is their largest revenue stream.
  - VieElm 11y ago
    They don't make it easy, broadcasters just add a link in their profile. There's no information transmitted to PayPal about the donation being for Twitch broadcasting. In fact a lot of broadcaster use third party tools, tools not made by Twitch or PayPal, for the donation system so that it updates in their stream and chat.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  Ehm, twitch has it's own donation system (which works trough paypal) e.g.: https://www.twitchalerts.com/donate/tsm_theoddone https://www.twitchalerts.com/donate/tsm_theoddone (and ofc boobies!) https://www.twitchalerts.com/donate/pink_sparkles https://www.twitchalerts.com/donate/pink_sparkles If you use a paypal link they also get the referrer unless you simply post your PP email and make people doit manually, but since the introduction of TA i think that's against the EULA.
  - Bhullnatik 11y ago
    Except that https://twitchalerts.com https://twitchalerts.com is not affiliated with Twitch, it's unsure if they have a deal to get some of the revenue.

Youtube already has that. It's called "Fan funding": https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6052077?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6052077?hl=en

InclinedPlane 11y ago
Wow. That is incredibly half-assed considering how important it should be. The contrast with twitch's system or with patreon or kickstarter could not be larger.
- timothya 11y ago
  Out of curiosity, what does Twitch do differently than this?
  - zanny 11y ago
    They have a big sub button, and give streamers tools to modify the experience for subs. You can give them sub only emotes that they can use everywhere, or you could put your chat in sub only mode, or you could make recorded videos that are sub only. Even that is not coming close to realizing the potential of such crowdfunding, but it beats a random tip button that sometimes doesn't even show up.
    - kbar13 11y ago
      well to be fair subscriptions != donations

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VieElm 11y ago

Twitch doesn't make any money from streamer tips as most of that is done through a link to PayPal. Twitch has no tip system. Popular streamers like Lirik have said they much prefer getting a subscription through Twitch than a donation as it's much more reliable. Some streamers like Summit1G probably does make way more money through tips because of their personality some people just throw money at them, but again none of that goes to Twitch.

fraserharris 11y ago
Do not assume PayPal is not kicking back a % of donations to Twitch. PayPal does this for e-commerce platforms that make PayPal integrations easy. For some e-commerce platforms this hidden cut of PayPal's transaction is their largest revenue stream.
- VieElm 11y ago
  They don't make it easy, broadcasters just add a link in their profile. There's no information transmitted to PayPal about the donation being for Twitch broadcasting. In fact a lot of broadcaster use third party tools, tools not made by Twitch or PayPal, for the donation system so that it updates in their stream and chat.
dogma1138 11y ago
Ehm, twitch has it's own donation system (which works trough paypal) e.g.: https://www.twitchalerts.com/donate/tsm_theoddone https://www.twitchalerts.com/donate/tsm_theoddone (and ofc boobies!) https://www.twitchalerts.com/donate/pink_sparkles https://www.twitchalerts.com/donate/pink_sparkles If you use a paypal link they also get the referrer unless you simply post your PP email and make people doit manually, but since the introduction of TA i think that's against the EULA.
- Bhullnatik 11y ago
  Except that https://twitchalerts.com https://twitchalerts.com is not affiliated with Twitch, it's unsure if they have a deal to get some of the revenue.