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Yes, awesome, thanks! It doesn't get the translations perfect AFAICT, but I think it's good enough to keep activated!

by pbiggar 11y ago

StavrosK 11y ago
Unfortunately, I don't think you can learn, for example, Spanish by translating pages to Spanish. You have to read pages in Spanish and translate from it, otherwise you're learning Google-Translatese, not Spanish. There's a lot of nuance, idioms, etc that translations can't give you, not to mention that they're usually, very, very wrong.
- yazaddaruvala 11y ago
  At least personally, I've always been horrible at remembering nouns/verbs in Spanish. I never did listen to any of my teachers and spend time memorizing the 10 or so words per week that I was supposed to. Even still I don't listen to Duolingo and practice consistently. My lack of vocabulary is directly related to my conversational fluency. It would definitely be nice to randomly see Spanish words in an English sentence while I'm going about my day. Next time I'm trying to speak to someone in Spanish, I may remember some of these words, be more confident about my sentences, and keep the conversation going longer. Honestly, even if I use the words slightly incorrectly (because they are Googleese) at least I'll have said something and have more conversation experience to learn from.
- personlurking 11y ago
  In Portuguese, I just used ReadLang (under C2, Master setting, w/o signing up) and saw the word 'conduzisse' which translated simply as 'lead'. The verb conduzir can also be to conduct, to guide, and to drive. The verbal tense is first/third-person singular imperfect subjunctive, which is important in meaning and context. What I wish to say with my comment is that perhaps the app is best for learning before reaching the advanced stage because this is when we pass from Translatese to real fluency. I did try Italian, in which I'm intermediate, and found the app useful. The song section is a nice touch, too.

Yes, awesome, thanks! It doesn't get the translations perfect AFAICT, but I think it's good enough to keep activated!

by pbiggar 11y ago

Yes, awesome, thanks! It doesn't get the translations perfect AFAICT, but I think it's good enough to keep activated!

Unfortunately, I don't think you can learn, for example, Spanish by translating pages to Spanish. You have to read pages in Spanish and translate from it, otherwise you're learning Google-Translatese, not Spanish. There's a lot of nuance, idioms, etc that translations can't give you, not to mention that they're usually, very, very wrong.

yazaddaruvala 11y ago
At least personally, I've always been horrible at remembering nouns/verbs in Spanish. I never did listen to any of my teachers and spend time memorizing the 10 or so words per week that I was supposed to. Even still I don't listen to Duolingo and practice consistently. My lack of vocabulary is directly related to my conversational fluency. It would definitely be nice to randomly see Spanish words in an English sentence while I'm going about my day. Next time I'm trying to speak to someone in Spanish, I may remember some of these words, be more confident about my sentences, and keep the conversation going longer. Honestly, even if I use the words slightly incorrectly (because they are Googleese) at least I'll have said something and have more conversation experience to learn from.
personlurking 11y ago
In Portuguese, I just used ReadLang (under C2, Master setting, w/o signing up) and saw the word 'conduzisse' which translated simply as 'lead'. The verb conduzir can also be to conduct, to guide, and to drive. The verbal tense is first/third-person singular imperfect subjunctive, which is important in meaning and context. What I wish to say with my comment is that perhaps the app is best for learning before reaching the advanced stage because this is when we pass from Translatese to real fluency. I did try Italian, in which I'm intermediate, and found the app useful. The song section is a nice touch, too.