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Does anyone like this - left, right or center? Matt Drudge just posted the headline "PELOSI SAYS NO TO OBAMATRADE; TAKES BRAVE STAND FOR AMERICA" ... stuff's g

by nsxwolf 11y ago

Does anyone like this - left, right or center? Matt Drudge just posted the headline "PELOSI SAYS NO TO OBAMATRADE; TAKES BRAVE STAND FOR AMERICA" ... stuff's getting weird, man.

rthomas6 11y ago
There's a Robert Reich article from a year ago that predicted this kind of division on issues. He says that the two new sides are "populist" vs "establishment". It looks to me like he was right. http://robertreich.org/post/84984296635 http://robertreich.org/post/84984296635 It really explains a lot, like why a lot of people feel so differently about Hillary Clinton vs. Bernie Sanders, or Jeb Bush vs. Rand Paul. I think we could say that Sanders and Paul are members of a new invisible party of populists, while Bush and Clinton are members of a pro-establishment party.
- randomname2 11y ago
  Or as other people have called this: Washington DC vs Everyone else. All presidential candidates except Paul and Sanders are firmly on the "establishment" side. But I'm sure we'll also hear the other candidates give plenty of lip service to the populists this election cycle and turn around and forget about all that as soon as they're elected.
  - BabLingBrooke 11y ago
    Actually, presidential candidate (& ex-HP CEO) Carly Fiorina came out against TPP as well.
- mentat 11y ago
  The establishment is also the new "families of rulers" pattern which is pretty disturbing.
- martinflack 11y ago
  Sounds like the authoritarian/libertarian axis labels on the 2D political map concept: http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012 http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012 It's why Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich would occasionally team up on an issue - they're both in the bottom half of the graph.
pjonesdotca 11y ago
"When the going get's weird, the weird go pro" - HST That's about the only thing I can think of if Drudge is saying good things about Pelosi
randomname2 11y ago
Not that weird, considering this: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/11/conservative-talk-radio-turns-trans-pacific-partnership/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/11/conservative-t...

by nsxwolf 11y ago

Does anyone like this - left, right or center? Matt Drudge just posted the headline "PELOSI SAYS NO TO OBAMATRADE; TAKES BRAVE STAND FOR AMERICA" ... stuff's getting weird, man.

rthomas6 11y ago

There's a Robert Reich article from a year ago that predicted this kind of division on issues. He says that the two new sides are "populist" vs "establishment". It looks to me like he was right. http://robertreich.org/post/84984296635 http://robertreich.org/post/84984296635 It really explains a lot, like why a lot of people feel so differently about Hillary Clinton vs. Bernie Sanders, or Jeb Bush vs. Rand Paul. I think we could say that Sanders and Paul are members of a new invisible party of populists, while Bush and Clinton are members of a pro-establishment party.

randomname2 11y ago
Or as other people have called this: Washington DC vs Everyone else. All presidential candidates except Paul and Sanders are firmly on the "establishment" side. But I'm sure we'll also hear the other candidates give plenty of lip service to the populists this election cycle and turn around and forget about all that as soon as they're elected.
- BabLingBrooke 11y ago
  Actually, presidential candidate (& ex-HP CEO) Carly Fiorina came out against TPP as well.
mentat 11y ago
The establishment is also the new "families of rulers" pattern which is pretty disturbing.
martinflack 11y ago
Sounds like the authoritarian/libertarian axis labels on the 2D political map concept: http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012 http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012 It's why Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich would occasionally team up on an issue - they're both in the bottom half of the graph.

pjonesdotca 11y ago

"When the going get's weird, the weird go pro" - HST That's about the only thing I can think of if Drudge is saying good things about Pelosi

randomname2 11y ago

Not that weird, considering this: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/11/conservative-talk-radio-turns-trans-pacific-partnership/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/11/conservative-t...