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I think it's important to look at both sides of the debate, especially when it appears one side or the other has been fudging data for years. But it's also imp

I think it's important to look at both sides of the debate, especially when it appears one side or the other has been fudging data for years. But it's also important to realize that even if Climate Change isn't man made pollution still is and we need to do our best to reduce it. Global Warming has been the specter hanging over our heads for the last decade telling us to clean up our act but we need to start stressing the importance of pollution cleanup and recycling outside of the climate change debate as it is hugely important in its own right.

CamperBob 17y ago
But it's also important to realize that even if Climate Change isn't man made pollution still is and we need to do our best to reduce it. It's not that simple. "Doing our best" to reduce pollution is a process that carries staggering costs of its own. It is not realistic to achieve a pollution-free lifestyle across all segments of humanity, so we're going to have to decide where the lines are drawn. That, regrettably, is always going to be a political process, and not a scientific one.
cema 17y ago
Climate change, pollution, and global warming are all different issues. Should not be confused.
- Readmore 17y ago
  Really? It isn't pollution that is the supposed cause of man-made Global Warming? I agree that pollution is a very general term that encompasses things which don't 'contribute' to Global Warming but saying that Pollution and Global Warming are different issues is misleading. You may have different definitions for Global Warming vs. Climate Change but I have heard them used interchangeably, if there is a difference I'd like to know what it is.
  - cema 17y ago
    [Sorry, could not answer earlier.] 1. Pollution is listed as one of the sources of the (alleged) artificial global warming, but not the only one. 2. Pollution and global warming may be related but they are different issues. For example, even if it turns out that global warming is not happening or is not a problem, pollution will remain a big deal and will have to be taken care of. 3. They are sometimes used interchangeably but this is a logical error (if not worse) and should be avoided.
gloob 17y ago
But it's also important to realize that even if Climate Change isn't man made pollution still is and we need to do our best to reduce it. Global Warming has been the specter hanging over our heads for the last decade telling us to clean up our act but we need to start stressing the importance of pollution cleanup and recycling outside of the climate change debate as it is hugely important in its own right. That's rather a strange and arbitrary direction to turn the discussion. You could just as well have said: But it's also important to realize that even if Climate Change isn't man made (Pollution | War | Starvation | IE6 | C++ | Rape | AIDS | Child Porn | Stubbed Toes) still is and we need to do our best to reduce it.

CamperBob 17y ago

But it's also important to realize that even if Climate Change isn't man made pollution still is and we need to do our best to reduce it. It's not that simple. "Doing our best" to reduce pollution is a process that carries staggering costs of its own. It is not realistic to achieve a pollution-free lifestyle across all segments of humanity, so we're going to have to decide where the lines are drawn. That, regrettably, is always going to be a political process, and not a scientific one.

cema 17y ago

Climate change, pollution, and global warming are all different issues. Should not be confused.

Readmore 17y ago
Really? It isn't pollution that is the supposed cause of man-made Global Warming? I agree that pollution is a very general term that encompasses things which don't 'contribute' to Global Warming but saying that Pollution and Global Warming are different issues is misleading. You may have different definitions for Global Warming vs. Climate Change but I have heard them used interchangeably, if there is a difference I'd like to know what it is.
- cema 17y ago
  [Sorry, could not answer earlier.] 1. Pollution is listed as one of the sources of the (alleged) artificial global warming, but not the only one. 2. Pollution and global warming may be related but they are different issues. For example, even if it turns out that global warming is not happening or is not a problem, pollution will remain a big deal and will have to be taken care of. 3. They are sometimes used interchangeably but this is a logical error (if not worse) and should be avoided.

gloob 17y ago

But it's also important to realize that even if Climate Change isn't man made pollution still is and we need to do our best to reduce it. Global Warming has been the specter hanging over our heads for the last decade telling us to clean up our act but we need to start stressing the importance of pollution cleanup and recycling outside of the climate change debate as it is hugely important in its own right. That's rather a strange and arbitrary direction to turn the discussion. You could just as well have said: But it's also important to realize that even if Climate Change isn't man made (Pollution | War | Starvation | IE6 | C++ | Rape | AIDS | Child Porn | Stubbed Toes) still is and we need to do our best to reduce it.