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I would't be >that< cynical. Let's see how this next presidential election turns out. If a democrat comes in and maintains (or at least doesn't entirely deci

I would't be >that< cynical. Let's see how this next presidential election turns out. If a democrat comes in and maintains (or at least doesn't entirely decimates) Obama's leftist policies, that will be a bit of a seachange. The last time we had two democrat presidents in a row with full terms was 1857 And while yes, Obama could be doing more to recognize what Technology is doing to Jobs, you have to appreciate that the electorate generally prefers evolution to revolution.

crdoconnor 11y ago
"Obama's leftist policies" Excuse me? Which "leftist" policies would this be? Ramming through TPP? TTIP? Obamacare, which provides profit guarantees via the forced purchase of insurance? Chained CPI? The slow chipping away of Medicare? The huge handouts to rich financiers and the pathetic slaps on the wrist for the crimes they committed? The only person who I'd have any hope of making any sea changes is Bernie Sanders, not because he is a Democrat, but because he's the only person in the US congress who can potentially stamp out the Democrat corporate lapdog contingent that currently rules the party (e.g. Nancy Pelosi and Obama) and turn it into something reasonable again.
- jmgao 11y ago
  Well, there's always the accelerationist option of voting republican and hoping they burn down the government quickly enough for the resulting radical change afterwards to be successful.
  - tangled 11y ago
    Do you actually believe that there's much difference between the republicans and democrats (that's a serious question)? My cynical take is that both parties are bank-rolled by the same set of people :) If I had my billions, then I'd pay both sides to ensure that my voice were heard whatever the outcome.
- enupten 11y ago
  I'm not sure if Bernie Sanders will be able to change things either, given that many of the things you're talking about require approval of the Congress. It even appears unlikely that he'll be nominated!

crdoconnor 11y ago

"Obama's leftist policies" Excuse me? Which "leftist" policies would this be? Ramming through TPP? TTIP? Obamacare, which provides profit guarantees via the forced purchase of insurance? Chained CPI? The slow chipping away of Medicare? The huge handouts to rich financiers and the pathetic slaps on the wrist for the crimes they committed? The only person who I'd have any hope of making any sea changes is Bernie Sanders, not because he is a Democrat, but because he's the only person in the US congress who can potentially stamp out the Democrat corporate lapdog contingent that currently rules the party (e.g. Nancy Pelosi and Obama) and turn it into something reasonable again.

jmgao 11y ago
Well, there's always the accelerationist option of voting republican and hoping they burn down the government quickly enough for the resulting radical change afterwards to be successful.
- tangled 11y ago
  Do you actually believe that there's much difference between the republicans and democrats (that's a serious question)? My cynical take is that both parties are bank-rolled by the same set of people :) If I had my billions, then I'd pay both sides to ensure that my voice were heard whatever the outcome.
enupten 11y ago
I'm not sure if Bernie Sanders will be able to change things either, given that many of the things you're talking about require approval of the Congress. It even appears unlikely that he'll be nominated!