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Goodbye ads. We won't miss you. If you have content, and it is worth it, people may pay for it. Otherwise, natural selection, survival of the fittest etc. Excel

Goodbye ads. We won't miss you. If you have content, and it is worth it, people may pay for it. Otherwise, natural selection, survival of the fittest etc. Excellent move by Apple. They managed to kill Flash, and now Ads.. fantastic!

cookiecaper 11y ago
People won't pay for anything but highly specialized content. First-class integration of ad blockers will eventually just drive down the amount of actual content available; people will put fluff content that is actually an ad or they'll have to go do something else with their time. Maybe this is a good thing or maybe it's a bad thing, but one thing is for sure: people are not going to be taking special action to pay for content that isn't highly specialized. One potential non-ad route for monetization would be an extension for the browser that opens your bitcoin wallet and sends a tip to a page's creator based on how much of your time was spent on that site that day. That'd be better than ads if we could get widespread adoption, as the site's owners wouldn't feel compelled to make deals with entities that may force them to compromise their content. Maybe Firefox can integrate it to counteract Safari.
- mercer 11y ago
  But why is that a bad thing? The already bad, native-ad-infested content would get worse, and people will actually start paying for the good content. The state of publishing is already pretty bad as it is, and any void left behind will be and is being filled up by better alternatives. It's like arguing for big music labels because otherwise music would disappear. It won't, and it didn't!
  - mike_hearn 11y ago
    I read lots of great ad supported content every day.
jfoutz 11y ago
I hope you realize the frustration and consternation of the gp poster. It's really hard to identify where the monitization happens. Right now, i sort of default to comments like this as well meaning at worst. Now, i sort of wonder, did you get paid for this? That's not necessarily bad. I can imagine a scheme were advertisers do sentiment analysis on comments, and reimburse users for positive emotions in response to a brand. I think it would be hard to sustain discourse int that environment, but i'd hope you at least got paid. Everyone is an astroturfer would be a strange world. Real communication would be to subtle for the SA to detect. Interesting indeed.

cookiecaper 11y ago

People won't pay for anything but highly specialized content. First-class integration of ad blockers will eventually just drive down the amount of actual content available; people will put fluff content that is actually an ad or they'll have to go do something else with their time. Maybe this is a good thing or maybe it's a bad thing, but one thing is for sure: people are not going to be taking special action to pay for content that isn't highly specialized. One potential non-ad route for monetization would be an extension for the browser that opens your bitcoin wallet and sends a tip to a page's creator based on how much of your time was spent on that site that day. That'd be better than ads if we could get widespread adoption, as the site's owners wouldn't feel compelled to make deals with entities that may force them to compromise their content. Maybe Firefox can integrate it to counteract Safari.

mercer 11y ago
But why is that a bad thing? The already bad, native-ad-infested content would get worse, and people will actually start paying for the good content. The state of publishing is already pretty bad as it is, and any void left behind will be and is being filled up by better alternatives. It's like arguing for big music labels because otherwise music would disappear. It won't, and it didn't!
- mike_hearn 11y ago
  I read lots of great ad supported content every day.

jfoutz 11y ago

I hope you realize the frustration and consternation of the gp poster. It's really hard to identify where the monitization happens. Right now, i sort of default to comments like this as well meaning at worst. Now, i sort of wonder, did you get paid for this? That's not necessarily bad. I can imagine a scheme were advertisers do sentiment analysis on comments, and reimburse users for positive emotions in response to a brand. I think it would be hard to sustain discourse int that environment, but i'd hope you at least got paid. Everyone is an astroturfer would be a strange world. Real communication would be to subtle for the SA to detect. Interesting indeed.