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69 points by caublestone 11y ago

hias 11y ago
Am I the only one who can not understand the hype about esports? I like playing myself and find watching others boring. It's cool if you like it, but I don't watch soccer either.
- tomtoise 11y ago
  Different strokes for different folks. I have never been interested in physical sports (Unless my partner's dad is around, then yay, rugby, best sport in the world), or e-sports that much, but my friend had a spare ticket to watch the LCS Cup finals (League of Legends tournament) in Wembley Arena, London and I've never experienced anything like it. You get so caught up in the hype, the baying crowd and the insane technical skills of the players that you can't ever look at e-sports in the same way again. Been given a ticket to watch New Zeland All-Blacks play this year, maybe the same thing will happen and I'll enjoy rugby more, who knows.
  - hvs 11y ago
    A lot of the interest in traditional professional sports comes from 1) having played the sport in some capacity so that you understand the intricacies of the game or at least have studied the game enough to have internalized those intricacies, and/or 2) knowing the players and their various strengths and weaknesses. If you are trying to get into a sport and just watch a random game, it will be harder to get into the sport without those things. Then again, some people just like to watch other people slam into each other.
- 746F7475 11y ago
  I just don't get why people who watch normal sports get all up in arms about "nerds playing video games". Why can't we all just like what we like and leave it at that? As for me I used to be into League of Legends tournaments, but every match I watch just feel the same. For me esport of choice is CS:GO, while the maps are the same the spots differ quite a lot and there is a lot more action since the rounds are so much shorter. I still do play both of the games, but I prefer to watch CS over LoL
  - k__ 11y ago
    For me, gaming was about variety. I always hated games like CS, which all my friends played when I was young, because they always played the same maps. Same with StarCraft and later with DOTA or LoL. Which ended up being about skills and not about variety anymore.
- unwind 11y ago
  So basically to you the hype around esports is just as strange as the one around soccer, or any other non-electronic sport? Or do you think the hype around esports is extra strange, for some reason? I'm not into either, but with my background esports certainly is easier to see as interesting since it's something I enjoy doing myself and can relate to more than most physical sports.
  - hvs 11y ago
    Which is what it comes down to: what you are familiar with. I don't thing the hype around either types of sports is strange. They are entertainment that people can relate to.
- wtf_is_up 11y ago
  I love to watch conventional sports. But I feel like I've witnessed so many more exciting esports moments. No sporting event I've watched has had the excitement of TI3 grand finals in DotA2 or Starcraft matches like MMA vs DongRaeGu Blizzard Cup. The strategy and metagaming makes it so interesting. The amount of skill is amazing. Esport pros make it look simple, but there is a lot going on. It makes for a very intense viewing experience IF you have an intermediate understanding of the game mechanics.
- baldfat 11y ago
  I love League of Legends eSports. I feel like it is the new Basketball. 1) I like how accessible to the games are. I can watch them live or on VODs 2) I find the personalities of the players interesting with their reveries and team drama. 3) How accessible the players are. You can watch them play on Twitch.tv. I am a fan of TSM and they have a weekly show called legends and you really get to see how things actually work in terms of strategy and picks. 4) Great strategy - I find that the meta strategy to be right up there if not higher than football, hockey or basketball. As a fan I can see two different strategies battle it out and see who is better especially when there are international competition. 5) It is truly international and the winning team can honestly say World Champions each and every year. Not many sports get that here in the United States. Other sports only gets that once every 4 years or for US NBA = Worlds Best basketball which is the exception.
- Kurtz79 11y ago
  I think that the term esports is a bit prententious and misleading. That said, I personally love games and game mechanics, and I find that watching people playing competitively a game that you like makes for decent entertainment, especially if commented by decent casters explaining the plays and strategies being used.
- jmcgough 11y ago
  I've never been enthusiastic about traditional sports - I didn't enjoy playing them that much when I was younger, so maybe I just can't identify at all with the players. However, I've always been passionate about video games, which is probably why professional gaming is so appealing to me. Following the pro scene, you become really attached to individual players and teams - their unique personalities, skills, and the complex team-based strategy that the game calls for. Unlike traditional sports, pro esports players are streaming frequently on twitch - you have much more direct contact to them. You can watch them playing in solo queue (i.e. in a non-professional environment, away from the rest of their team), and they'll often joke around, talk to their viewers (who talk in a chat attached to the channel), and explain what they're doing and their decision-making as they play the game. So, you watch League of Legends because of the crazy plays that Faker makes, or the mind-blowing support mechanics of Madlife. You rooted for Dignitas because of how hilarious QTPie is on his stream, or maybe you've been following TSM since the Baylife days, standing by them when they falter and cheering madly when they make a showing in an international tournament. The Koreans have been dominant for years, but every year it feels like the NA teams are slowly inching closer in terms of skill. You go to a bar in San Francisco where they play matches live, and you're surrounded by people who are just as passionate as you. On top of all of that, you have Riot Games, which has invested themselves entirely in building a sport, not just a game, and making fans feel like they're valued and loved. Maybe you even have professional aspirations yourself - there's a challenger circuit for the best amateur teams, that's also run by Riot Games, where the best teams make it into the professional circuit. Playing professionally pretty much guarantees you six figures of income, from streaming and sponsorships. So, people are into esports the same reason they're into any sport. You fall in love with the teams, the players, and the rivalries, and you get to watch people who have dedicated their lives to being incredibly skilled at a game that's both more technically demanding than anything else you can think of, and requires perfect coordination between team members.
zubspace 11y ago
Very interesting article. I must admit, that I never played League of Legends. So could please someone explain, how is it possible to reach top position simply by using this strategy in this game: "My strength is in understanding the flow of the game, when to fight and when not to fight," he explains. "Regardless of which champion I play, that strength is there." Either he's very humble or does not tell the whole story. Additionally, I only get news from League of Legends by stuff posted on reddit. Which happens very often. Obviously there's a large fanbase. But the stuff posted there looks very alien to me. Moreover it often looks more like a spamfest than anything else. I'm used to First-Person-Shooters and there's a clear line from Starter to Pro. But how do you define skill in this game? Example: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/37d6kw/fizz_ladies_and_gentlemen/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/37d6kw/fiz... For me this looks more like someone running around aimlessly, bashing some spells and getting lucky. Please explain.
- warcode 11y ago
  It is not a strategy you can simply use. He can clearly utilize many champions at a skill level higher than most people. This includes many different areas like itemization, skill order (both learning and usage), positioning, movement, teamwork, etc. While reading the flow of the game is a much more general level above that. It takes knowing all the champions of the match and what they are likely to do. It takes keeping track of what has happened and predicting what the enemy will do next. Most of all this gets multiplied massively if your team can influence the flow to your advantage. As with most video games you can't really see the skill until you have played it yourself and know what it takes.
- pdpi 11y ago
  He's not quite telling the whole story, but in a way that's not that different from what you'd expect. The starting point is that you expect a baseline of performance for any professional player: they know what all the characters do, the layout of the map, etc etc. From that point, some players are particularly well known for certain skills (much as in any other sport): Some guys are known for being preternaturally good at hitting tricky skills. Others are known for being really good at studying their opponents' style and routines, and capitalising on that knowledge. When Faker says he's good at reading the flow of the game, he's saying he's good at answering questions like the following: - If my opponents are in the fog of war, where are they likely to be? - What should I do in response to that? - Are my allies in a position to help me if I engage this opponent? - Are _his_ allies in a position to help him? - If I do engage and kill the opponent, will I have to return to base to heal, or will I make it relatively unhurt? - Are there any important map objectives that I will not be able to help with if I am sent back to lick my wounds? - If I split off from the rest of the team to go chase some map objective, what happens? - Can I gain that objective uncontested? - Will my opponents capitalise on the 4v5 and defeat my allies while I possibly gain the objective? - Will some of their guys try to prevent me from gaining that objective? - If they do, will I be able to escape? - Will my team be able to capitalise on the enemy's attempt to stop me and defeat the remaining opponents?
Blackthorn 11y ago
It's tough to overemphasize just how good Faker is/was. When he first appeared on the scene there had been other players before that had been considered to revolutionize their role. People like Diamondprox (for jungle) and Reapered (for top). But Faker was just something else completely.
simonebrunozzi 11y ago
I play Dota 2 every once in a while. Fun game. I never played League of Legends (LoL), which seems to be more popular, just because I've read that they look very much alike, and I can't really afford, time-wise, to learn another game at all. Interesting to see if someone plays both and has any comment on how they differ.
- kzvezdarov 11y ago
  I played League for a very brief period, before I got my Dota 2 beta invite, so some of these might not be valid any longer. Also note that those are differences in game design, one is not necessarily better than the other: - DotA 2 metagame undergoes major changes every patch, whereas League metagame is mostly guided by Riot towards a certain playstyle. E.g. in DotA 2 lane assignments are extremely flexible, under certain conditions you can see any hero in any lane, whereas in League champions are mostly only viable in certain lanes. - Mechanics wise, DotA 2 is more punishing. If you die, you are dead for much longer, you lose a significant portion of aquired gold. Laning wise, you can deny your own creeps in order to prevent the enemy from gaining gold and experience, and you can modify where the opposing creep waves meet in lane via pulling from the jungle camps. You cannot do that in League. Teamfights in DotA 2 are usually very fast and deadly, due to the presence of strong disables/burst (which is something League shies away from), strong initiators, and the fact that heroes are very asymmetrically balanced. - The map in DotA 2 is bigger which puts a great emphasis on mobility and positioning on the strategic level - The International 3's Grand finals were a great example of that. - DotA 2 comes with a lot of complexity. There are a huge amount of synergies, item/spell interactions, and generally mechanical knowledge that a player needs to absorb before they can play semi-efficiently (not that the process is not fun; it just takes a considerable amount of time in comparison). - On the technical side, DotA 2 has a better client by an order of magnitude. Also, it has a Linux-native version which runs perfectly.
- moorederodeo 11y ago
  Used to play LoL a fair bit, and still watch it every once in a while, but have mostly switched over to Dota. Major differences: -No denying in LoL -The lanes are much more rigid, with 1 top, 1 mid, 2 bottom, and 1 jungle being the standard meta, although in competitive you will sometimes see lane swaps. I can't say I've ever seen anything like an aggressive tri-lane in LoL. -There's a lot more out of game but game impacting customization of your hero/champ in LoL that is tied into their micro transactions (runes) and account leveling (masteries). In Dota all of these small differences are absent, and the items are generally more impactful and more frequently have actives. The biggest out of game impacts are from your choice of heroes. -On that same note, in LoL, you only have a small roster of free champions each week, plus a couple of starter champions, to play from initially. You can buy more as you earn more in game currency or pay money to unlock them directly. This is contrasted with DOTA giving you all of the heroes up front as soon as you make your account, with only cosmetics being for sold for real money. -Spells are generally more costly and less spammable in Dota versus LoL. Champions in LoL are usually centered on one controllable unit, with some having a second unit that's controllable through an alt-click. This contrasts Dota's more RTS controls where heroes are capable of amassing armies of units. -I'm sure I'm forgetting some things, but overall a lot comes down to the different design philosophies of either game. Valve strives with DOTA 2 for "perfect imbalance", with everything having some "overpowered" aspects. I can't really speak to what Riot's current design philosophy with LoL, as I haven't followed it a lot recently, but a lot of the decisions are built around their specific take on the f2p model.
Eynix 11y ago
FAKER
savanaly 11y ago
Not sure if they provided a link anywhere but anyone who's curious about the game or wants to see him play, this is a recent VOD of him playing casually. (gameplay starts around 14 minutes in). http://www.azubu.tv/faker#!/play/35259/skt-faker-june-01st--2015 http://www.azubu.tv/faker#!/play/35259/skt-faker-june-01st--...
giltleaf 11y ago
What does faker play? Jungle, top, etc.? Or was the article saying he plays everything? I've been out of league for a few years now and never got into e sports besides solomid for context.
- jmcgough 11y ago
  He plays mid, but he's renowned for having a huge champion pool - I wouldn't be shocked if he could play any role, though he shines when he's roaming to create map pressure.
emocakes 11y ago
fans of this shit must be fucking losers.
malkia 11y ago
Worked in game industry for more than 15 years, but never played any multiplayer games (except at work locally), and hot-seat (Heroes of Might and Magic). I always felt strange about such tournaments, but now I'm reading Ender's game and that feeling is even more stranger :) Oh, I forgot... I've played for 30 minutes minecraft with my son last week first time for me and him on a server. It was fun!
jmcgough 11y ago
For anyone interested in seeing Faker's first game, and the series of events that they describe where he kills his lane opponent: http://www.twitch.tv/ongamenet/b/387298731?t=24m28s http://www.twitch.tv/ongamenet/b/387298731?t=24m28s Was a pretty one-sided game, but it was as much due to SKT as a team as it was to Faker. I'm not sure where they got that MonteCristo quote from, I don't recall him saying it.

69 points by caublestone 11y ago

hias 11y ago

Am I the only one who can not understand the hype about esports? I like playing myself and find watching others boring. It's cool if you like it, but I don't watch soccer either.

tomtoise 11y ago
Different strokes for different folks. I have never been interested in physical sports (Unless my partner's dad is around, then yay, rugby, best sport in the world), or e-sports that much, but my friend had a spare ticket to watch the LCS Cup finals (League of Legends tournament) in Wembley Arena, London and I've never experienced anything like it. You get so caught up in the hype, the baying crowd and the insane technical skills of the players that you can't ever look at e-sports in the same way again. Been given a ticket to watch New Zeland All-Blacks play this year, maybe the same thing will happen and I'll enjoy rugby more, who knows.
- hvs 11y ago
  A lot of the interest in traditional professional sports comes from 1) having played the sport in some capacity so that you understand the intricacies of the game or at least have studied the game enough to have internalized those intricacies, and/or 2) knowing the players and their various strengths and weaknesses. If you are trying to get into a sport and just watch a random game, it will be harder to get into the sport without those things. Then again, some people just like to watch other people slam into each other.
746F7475 11y ago
I just don't get why people who watch normal sports get all up in arms about "nerds playing video games". Why can't we all just like what we like and leave it at that? As for me I used to be into League of Legends tournaments, but every match I watch just feel the same. For me esport of choice is CS:GO, while the maps are the same the spots differ quite a lot and there is a lot more action since the rounds are so much shorter. I still do play both of the games, but I prefer to watch CS over LoL
- k__ 11y ago
  For me, gaming was about variety. I always hated games like CS, which all my friends played when I was young, because they always played the same maps. Same with StarCraft and later with DOTA or LoL. Which ended up being about skills and not about variety anymore.
unwind 11y ago
So basically to you the hype around esports is just as strange as the one around soccer, or any other non-electronic sport? Or do you think the hype around esports is extra strange, for some reason? I'm not into either, but with my background esports certainly is easier to see as interesting since it's something I enjoy doing myself and can relate to more than most physical sports.
- hvs 11y ago
  Which is what it comes down to: what you are familiar with. I don't thing the hype around either types of sports is strange. They are entertainment that people can relate to.
wtf_is_up 11y ago
I love to watch conventional sports. But I feel like I've witnessed so many more exciting esports moments. No sporting event I've watched has had the excitement of TI3 grand finals in DotA2 or Starcraft matches like MMA vs DongRaeGu Blizzard Cup. The strategy and metagaming makes it so interesting. The amount of skill is amazing. Esport pros make it look simple, but there is a lot going on. It makes for a very intense viewing experience IF you have an intermediate understanding of the game mechanics.
baldfat 11y ago
I love League of Legends eSports. I feel like it is the new Basketball. 1) I like how accessible to the games are. I can watch them live or on VODs 2) I find the personalities of the players interesting with their reveries and team drama. 3) How accessible the players are. You can watch them play on Twitch.tv. I am a fan of TSM and they have a weekly show called legends and you really get to see how things actually work in terms of strategy and picks. 4) Great strategy - I find that the meta strategy to be right up there if not higher than football, hockey or basketball. As a fan I can see two different strategies battle it out and see who is better especially when there are international competition. 5) It is truly international and the winning team can honestly say World Champions each and every year. Not many sports get that here in the United States. Other sports only gets that once every 4 years or for US NBA = Worlds Best basketball which is the exception.
Kurtz79 11y ago
I think that the term esports is a bit prententious and misleading. That said, I personally love games and game mechanics, and I find that watching people playing competitively a game that you like makes for decent entertainment, especially if commented by decent casters explaining the plays and strategies being used.
jmcgough 11y ago
I've never been enthusiastic about traditional sports - I didn't enjoy playing them that much when I was younger, so maybe I just can't identify at all with the players. However, I've always been passionate about video games, which is probably why professional gaming is so appealing to me. Following the pro scene, you become really attached to individual players and teams - their unique personalities, skills, and the complex team-based strategy that the game calls for. Unlike traditional sports, pro esports players are streaming frequently on twitch - you have much more direct contact to them. You can watch them playing in solo queue (i.e. in a non-professional environment, away from the rest of their team), and they'll often joke around, talk to their viewers (who talk in a chat attached to the channel), and explain what they're doing and their decision-making as they play the game. So, you watch League of Legends because of the crazy plays that Faker makes, or the mind-blowing support mechanics of Madlife. You rooted for Dignitas because of how hilarious QTPie is on his stream, or maybe you've been following TSM since the Baylife days, standing by them when they falter and cheering madly when they make a showing in an international tournament. The Koreans have been dominant for years, but every year it feels like the NA teams are slowly inching closer in terms of skill. You go to a bar in San Francisco where they play matches live, and you're surrounded by people who are just as passionate as you. On top of all of that, you have Riot Games, which has invested themselves entirely in building a sport, not just a game, and making fans feel like they're valued and loved. Maybe you even have professional aspirations yourself - there's a challenger circuit for the best amateur teams, that's also run by Riot Games, where the best teams make it into the professional circuit. Playing professionally pretty much guarantees you six figures of income, from streaming and sponsorships. So, people are into esports the same reason they're into any sport. You fall in love with the teams, the players, and the rivalries, and you get to watch people who have dedicated their lives to being incredibly skilled at a game that's both more technically demanding than anything else you can think of, and requires perfect coordination between team members.

zubspace 11y ago

Very interesting article. I must admit, that I never played League of Legends. So could please someone explain, how is it possible to reach top position simply by using this strategy in this game: "My strength is in understanding the flow of the game, when to fight and when not to fight," he explains. "Regardless of which champion I play, that strength is there." Either he's very humble or does not tell the whole story. Additionally, I only get news from League of Legends by stuff posted on reddit. Which happens very often. Obviously there's a large fanbase. But the stuff posted there looks very alien to me. Moreover it often looks more like a spamfest than anything else. I'm used to First-Person-Shooters and there's a clear line from Starter to Pro. But how do you define skill in this game? Example: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/37d6kw/fizz_ladies_and_gentlemen/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/37d6kw/fiz... For me this looks more like someone running around aimlessly, bashing some spells and getting lucky. Please explain.

warcode 11y ago
It is not a strategy you can simply use. He can clearly utilize many champions at a skill level higher than most people. This includes many different areas like itemization, skill order (both learning and usage), positioning, movement, teamwork, etc. While reading the flow of the game is a much more general level above that. It takes knowing all the champions of the match and what they are likely to do. It takes keeping track of what has happened and predicting what the enemy will do next. Most of all this gets multiplied massively if your team can influence the flow to your advantage. As with most video games you can't really see the skill until you have played it yourself and know what it takes.
pdpi 11y ago
He's not quite telling the whole story, but in a way that's not that different from what you'd expect. The starting point is that you expect a baseline of performance for any professional player: they know what all the characters do, the layout of the map, etc etc. From that point, some players are particularly well known for certain skills (much as in any other sport): Some guys are known for being preternaturally good at hitting tricky skills. Others are known for being really good at studying their opponents' style and routines, and capitalising on that knowledge. When Faker says he's good at reading the flow of the game, he's saying he's good at answering questions like the following: - If my opponents are in the fog of war, where are they likely to be? - What should I do in response to that? - Are my allies in a position to help me if I engage this opponent? - Are _his_ allies in a position to help him? - If I do engage and kill the opponent, will I have to return to base to heal, or will I make it relatively unhurt? - Are there any important map objectives that I will not be able to help with if I am sent back to lick my wounds? - If I split off from the rest of the team to go chase some map objective, what happens? - Can I gain that objective uncontested? - Will my opponents capitalise on the 4v5 and defeat my allies while I possibly gain the objective? - Will some of their guys try to prevent me from gaining that objective? - If they do, will I be able to escape? - Will my team be able to capitalise on the enemy's attempt to stop me and defeat the remaining opponents?

Blackthorn 11y ago

It's tough to overemphasize just how good Faker is/was. When he first appeared on the scene there had been other players before that had been considered to revolutionize their role. People like Diamondprox (for jungle) and Reapered (for top). But Faker was just something else completely.

simonebrunozzi 11y ago

I play Dota 2 every once in a while. Fun game. I never played League of Legends (LoL), which seems to be more popular, just because I've read that they look very much alike, and I can't really afford, time-wise, to learn another game at all. Interesting to see if someone plays both and has any comment on how they differ.

kzvezdarov 11y ago
I played League for a very brief period, before I got my Dota 2 beta invite, so some of these might not be valid any longer. Also note that those are differences in game design, one is not necessarily better than the other: - DotA 2 metagame undergoes major changes every patch, whereas League metagame is mostly guided by Riot towards a certain playstyle. E.g. in DotA 2 lane assignments are extremely flexible, under certain conditions you can see any hero in any lane, whereas in League champions are mostly only viable in certain lanes. - Mechanics wise, DotA 2 is more punishing. If you die, you are dead for much longer, you lose a significant portion of aquired gold. Laning wise, you can deny your own creeps in order to prevent the enemy from gaining gold and experience, and you can modify where the opposing creep waves meet in lane via pulling from the jungle camps. You cannot do that in League. Teamfights in DotA 2 are usually very fast and deadly, due to the presence of strong disables/burst (which is something League shies away from), strong initiators, and the fact that heroes are very asymmetrically balanced. - The map in DotA 2 is bigger which puts a great emphasis on mobility and positioning on the strategic level - The International 3's Grand finals were a great example of that. - DotA 2 comes with a lot of complexity. There are a huge amount of synergies, item/spell interactions, and generally mechanical knowledge that a player needs to absorb before they can play semi-efficiently (not that the process is not fun; it just takes a considerable amount of time in comparison). - On the technical side, DotA 2 has a better client by an order of magnitude. Also, it has a Linux-native version which runs perfectly.
moorederodeo 11y ago
Used to play LoL a fair bit, and still watch it every once in a while, but have mostly switched over to Dota. Major differences: -No denying in LoL -The lanes are much more rigid, with 1 top, 1 mid, 2 bottom, and 1 jungle being the standard meta, although in competitive you will sometimes see lane swaps. I can't say I've ever seen anything like an aggressive tri-lane in LoL. -There's a lot more out of game but game impacting customization of your hero/champ in LoL that is tied into their micro transactions (runes) and account leveling (masteries). In Dota all of these small differences are absent, and the items are generally more impactful and more frequently have actives. The biggest out of game impacts are from your choice of heroes. -On that same note, in LoL, you only have a small roster of free champions each week, plus a couple of starter champions, to play from initially. You can buy more as you earn more in game currency or pay money to unlock them directly. This is contrasted with DOTA giving you all of the heroes up front as soon as you make your account, with only cosmetics being for sold for real money. -Spells are generally more costly and less spammable in Dota versus LoL. Champions in LoL are usually centered on one controllable unit, with some having a second unit that's controllable through an alt-click. This contrasts Dota's more RTS controls where heroes are capable of amassing armies of units. -I'm sure I'm forgetting some things, but overall a lot comes down to the different design philosophies of either game. Valve strives with DOTA 2 for "perfect imbalance", with everything having some "overpowered" aspects. I can't really speak to what Riot's current design philosophy with LoL, as I haven't followed it a lot recently, but a lot of the decisions are built around their specific take on the f2p model.

Eynix 11y ago

FAKER

savanaly 11y ago

Not sure if they provided a link anywhere but anyone who's curious about the game or wants to see him play, this is a recent VOD of him playing casually. (gameplay starts around 14 minutes in). http://www.azubu.tv/faker#!/play/35259/skt-faker-june-01st--2015 http://www.azubu.tv/faker#!/play/35259/skt-faker-june-01st--...

giltleaf 11y ago

What does faker play? Jungle, top, etc.? Or was the article saying he plays everything? I've been out of league for a few years now and never got into e sports besides solomid for context.

jmcgough 11y ago
He plays mid, but he's renowned for having a huge champion pool - I wouldn't be shocked if he could play any role, though he shines when he's roaming to create map pressure.

emocakes 11y ago

fans of this shit must be fucking losers.

malkia 11y ago

Worked in game industry for more than 15 years, but never played any multiplayer games (except at work locally), and hot-seat (Heroes of Might and Magic). I always felt strange about such tournaments, but now I'm reading Ender's game and that feeling is even more stranger :) Oh, I forgot... I've played for 30 minutes minecraft with my son last week first time for me and him on a server. It was fun!

jmcgough 11y ago

For anyone interested in seeing Faker's first game, and the series of events that they describe where he kills his lane opponent: http://www.twitch.tv/ongamenet/b/387298731?t=24m28s http://www.twitch.tv/ongamenet/b/387298731?t=24m28s Was a pretty one-sided game, but it was as much due to SKT as a team as it was to Faker. I'm not sure where they got that MonteCristo quote from, I don't recall him saying it.