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What? Are you comparing feminism to misogyny and racism?

by _kst_ 11y ago

001sky 11y ago
every 'ism has its bullies...
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shard972 11y ago
I don't find mind difference between the conduct of 3rd wave feminists and a lot of the misogyny and racism I see online.
- honestcoyote 11y ago
  Every time I see this accusation against 3rd wave feminism, I realize the poster has no idea what 3rd wave feminism is. 2nd wave is the one which frightened insecure men, and had some strong anti porn and anti sex messages from a few proponents. 3rd wave, in short, is why don't we all get along, sex is awesome, and if we help men with some of their problems with toxic masculinity, then everyone is better off. edit: Here's a good & brief overview of feminism's waves - http://www.pacificu.edu/about-us/news-events/three-waves-feminism http://www.pacificu.edu/about-us/news-events/three-waves-fem...
  - oldmanjay 11y ago
    yeah all that needs to happen is men need to be fixed for women to be happy. it works for dating, why wouldn't it work for society?
    - oldmanjay 11y ago
      I'm hoping this was voted down for the snark, because if you disagree with the point, you are really lacking in an understanding of how humans actually work
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  - redml 11y ago
    > if we help men with some of their problems with toxic masculinity And this is why nobody takes you seriously.
Veratyr 11y ago
There's a movement of people who call themselves "Social Justice Warriors" (SJWs). They engage in activities that they claim are in support of race, gender and class equality but are in fact often racist or sexist. In general they seem to be hateful people damaging the causes they claim to fight for. The #KillAllMen, #KillAllWhiteMen hashtags on Twitter are good examples of some of their activities. Their backwards activism is often self-branded as "feminism", giving birth to things like #WomenAgainstFeminism. The definition of feminism has become sufficiently corrupted thanks to these people that women themselves are fighting against it. I have a feeling it's their backwards "feminism" your parent commenter was referring to.
- Aoyagi 11y ago
  A group? To my understanding, "SJW" is a pejorative naming from the other side of the scale.
  - Veratyr 11y ago
    Apparently you're right. I have seen instances of members of this group self labelling as an "SJW" though.
    - fenomas 11y ago
      In practice, when someone refers to themselves as an SJW they mean they are the sort of person who's likely to be labeled that way. Similar to "bleeding heart liberal" a generation ago, I guess.
- ossreality 11y ago
  LMAO. I've never seen someone call themselves a SJW. SJW is used by MRA types to put down anyone who wants to have an educated discussion about feminism, rape culture, privilege or any other trigger word that seems to send a bunch of straight white dudes into a frothing mad rage.
- fleitz 11y ago
  Perhaps we should not take hashtags as a serious form of debate. There are idiots on the internet. They have opinions. It's alright. Like any other -ism people are always debating what TRUE -ismists believe. eg. Is Rand Paul a libertarian? eg. Is Obama a liberal? In general most people have opinions that don't fit into neat little boxes.
irishcoffee 11y ago
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3119088/March-feminist-bullies-Nobel-professor-s-hounded-job-sexist-remarks-Sarah-Vine-says-s-deeply-disturbing-trend.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3119088/March-femi...

What? Are you comparing feminism to misogyny and racism?

by _kst_ 11y ago

What? Are you comparing feminism to misogyny and racism?

001sky 11y ago

every 'ism has its bullies...

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shard972 11y ago

I don't find mind difference between the conduct of 3rd wave feminists and a lot of the misogyny and racism I see online.

honestcoyote 11y ago
Every time I see this accusation against 3rd wave feminism, I realize the poster has no idea what 3rd wave feminism is. 2nd wave is the one which frightened insecure men, and had some strong anti porn and anti sex messages from a few proponents. 3rd wave, in short, is why don't we all get along, sex is awesome, and if we help men with some of their problems with toxic masculinity, then everyone is better off. edit: Here's a good & brief overview of feminism's waves - http://www.pacificu.edu/about-us/news-events/three-waves-feminism http://www.pacificu.edu/about-us/news-events/three-waves-fem...
- oldmanjay 11y ago
  yeah all that needs to happen is men need to be fixed for women to be happy. it works for dating, why wouldn't it work for society?
  - oldmanjay 11y ago
    I'm hoping this was voted down for the snark, because if you disagree with the point, you are really lacking in an understanding of how humans actually work
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- redml 11y ago
  > if we help men with some of their problems with toxic masculinity And this is why nobody takes you seriously.

Veratyr 11y ago

There's a movement of people who call themselves "Social Justice Warriors" (SJWs). They engage in activities that they claim are in support of race, gender and class equality but are in fact often racist or sexist. In general they seem to be hateful people damaging the causes they claim to fight for. The #KillAllMen, #KillAllWhiteMen hashtags on Twitter are good examples of some of their activities. Their backwards activism is often self-branded as "feminism", giving birth to things like #WomenAgainstFeminism. The definition of feminism has become sufficiently corrupted thanks to these people that women themselves are fighting against it. I have a feeling it's their backwards "feminism" your parent commenter was referring to.

Aoyagi 11y ago
A group? To my understanding, "SJW" is a pejorative naming from the other side of the scale.
- Veratyr 11y ago
  Apparently you're right. I have seen instances of members of this group self labelling as an "SJW" though.
  - fenomas 11y ago
    In practice, when someone refers to themselves as an SJW they mean they are the sort of person who's likely to be labeled that way. Similar to "bleeding heart liberal" a generation ago, I guess.
ossreality 11y ago
LMAO. I've never seen someone call themselves a SJW. SJW is used by MRA types to put down anyone who wants to have an educated discussion about feminism, rape culture, privilege or any other trigger word that seems to send a bunch of straight white dudes into a frothing mad rage.
fleitz 11y ago
Perhaps we should not take hashtags as a serious form of debate. There are idiots on the internet. They have opinions. It's alright. Like any other -ism people are always debating what TRUE -ismists believe. eg. Is Rand Paul a libertarian? eg. Is Obama a liberal? In general most people have opinions that don't fit into neat little boxes.

irishcoffee 11y ago

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3119088/March-feminist-bullies-Nobel-professor-s-hounded-job-sexist-remarks-Sarah-Vine-says-s-deeply-disturbing-trend.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3119088/March-femi...