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Reddit has become a real cesspool over the past few years. You'll always find misogyny front and center and you don't have to dig to find racism.
by elinchrome 11y ago
Reddit has become a real cesspool over the past few years. You'll always find misogyny front and center and you don't have to dig to find racism.
- smegel 11y agoFeminism too.
- brobdingnagian 11y ago+1
- _kst_ 11y agoWhat? Are you comparing feminism to misogyny and racism?
- 001sky 11y agoevery 'ism has its bullies...
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- shard972 11y agoI don't find mind difference between the conduct of 3rd wave feminists and a lot of the misogyny and racism I see online.
- honestcoyote 11y agoEvery time I see this accusation against 3rd wave feminism, I realize the poster has no idea what 3rd wave feminism is. 2nd wave is the one which frightened insecure men, and had some strong anti porn and anti sex messages from a few proponents. 3rd wave, in short, is why don't we all get along, sex is awesome, and if we help men with some of their problems with toxic masculinity, then everyone is better off. edit: Here's a good & brief overview of feminism's waves - http://www.pacificu.edu/about-us/news-events/three-waves-feminism http://www.pacificu.edu/about-us/news-events/three-waves-fem...
- oldmanjay 11y agoyeah all that needs to happen is men need to be fixed for women to be happy. it works for dating, why wouldn't it work for society?
- oldmanjay 11y agoI'm hoping this was voted down for the snark, because if you disagree with the point, you are really lacking in an understanding of how humans actually work
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- redml 11y ago> if we help men with some of their problems with toxic masculinity And this is why nobody takes you seriously.
- Veratyr 11y agoThere's a movement of people who call themselves "Social Justice Warriors" (SJWs). They engage in activities that they claim are in support of race, gender and class equality but are in fact often racist or sexist. In general they seem to be hateful people damaging the causes they claim to fight for. The #KillAllMen, #KillAllWhiteMen hashtags on Twitter are good examples of some of their activities. Their backwards activism is often self-branded as "feminism", giving birth to things like #WomenAgainstFeminism. The definition of feminism has become sufficiently corrupted thanks to these people that women themselves are fighting against it. I have a feeling it's their backwards "feminism" your parent commenter was referring to.
- Aoyagi 11y agoA group? To my understanding, "SJW" is a pejorative naming from the other side of the scale.
- Veratyr 11y agoApparently you're right. I have seen instances of members of this group self labelling as an "SJW" though.
- fenomas 11y agoIn practice, when someone refers to themselves as an SJW they mean they are the sort of person who's likely to be labeled that way. Similar to "bleeding heart liberal" a generation ago, I guess.
- ossreality 11y agoLMAO. I've never seen someone call themselves a SJW. SJW is used by MRA types to put down anyone who wants to have an educated discussion about feminism, rape culture, privilege or any other trigger word that seems to send a bunch of straight white dudes into a frothing mad rage.
- fleitz 11y agoPerhaps we should not take hashtags as a serious form of debate. There are idiots on the internet. They have opinions. It's alright. Like any other -ism people are always debating what TRUE -ismists believe. eg. Is Rand Paul a libertarian? eg. Is Obama a liberal? In general most people have opinions that don't fit into neat little boxes.
- irishcoffee 11y agohttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3119088/March-feminist-bullies-Nobel-professor-s-hounded-job-sexist-remarks-Sarah-Vine-says-s-deeply-disturbing-trend.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3119088/March-femi...
- GFK_of_xmaspast 11y agoWhat the fuck, dude.
- zxcvcxz 11y agoI'm pretty sure the radical feminist movement is being curated by Russian trolls to create social unrest.
- alexc05 11y agoLast week I would have called you a crazy conspiracy theorist. This was in the new York times... http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html?referrer= http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.htm... Even then I feel like it has to be a hoax
- A_COMPUTER 11y agoGloria Steinem worked for the CIA, not the KGB ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4HRUEqyZ7p8#t=11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4H...
- baby 11y agoIt baffles me that people still have trouble differentiating Feminism as wanting women to be equal to men in the world AND the usual stupid more vocal minority. I think a lot of people here on HN are feminist in the sense that we think women should be treated equally to men in a modern society.
- mod 11y agoI'm "feminist in that sense," but that's not how I equate the feminist movement, nor how it seems to play out in practice. That said, I think it's true of lots of other situations. Political parties, for instance, are widely characterized as those "stupid" extremists. If you ask a liberal, Bill O'Reilly is the epitome of a conservative, and if you ask a conservative, Michael Moore is the epitome of a liberal. In reality, most people on other side are just pretty normal. I would never identify as a feminist, but certainly I believe in equal rights. I think that typically, people who identify as feminists give the "movement" a bad name.
- philwelch 11y agoThe "stupid, more vocal minority" has done for the word "feminist" what stupid, vocal minorities have done for other well-intentioned ideas like "Christian".
- mynameishere 11y agoI've been on reddit for 8 years, and lurked before that. The top submissions and comments have always, and consistently, been standard-issue PC/liberal in their overall view.
- teraflop 11y agoI've been on Reddit approximately that long, and I disagree. It's always been made up of people who like to think of themselves as liberal, in a group-solidarity, shared-identity sort of sense. But the conservative/reactionary undercurrents have been around for quite a while and have been growing with every passing year.
- eli 11y agoI don't think this has anything to do with liberal vs conservative. Nor does outright bullying really have anything to do with "political correctness".
- HelloMcFly 11y agoIn the years since SJW turned from a meaningful term into a catch-all for anyone who advocates for social justice in any way other than qualifying lip service[1], the general reddit crowd has noticeably moved away from standard-issue PC/liberal to anglo-centric liberal. Systemic issues of injustice are portrayed as primarily matters of self-fulfilling prophecy. The protestant work ethic is heavily espoused for minorities, but it's all systemic issues when it comes to college grads having a hard time finding a job. The same is true to a lesser degree[2] for many women's issues, though I hesitate to mention it because this community isn't immune either. [1] Ex) "I hate racism as much as the next guy..." [2] Or maybe I don't appreciate it as much.
- brador 11y ago> The protestant work ethic is heavily espoused for minorities What do you mean here? Just looking for an explanation...
- HelloMcFly 11y ago