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>I'm all for freedom of speech but Hint: this is a good sign you aren't. "I'm all for freedom of speech, but that obscene material just has to go." "I'm all

>I'm all for freedom of speech but Hint: this is a good sign you aren't. "I'm all for freedom of speech, but that obscene material just has to go." "I'm all for freedom of speech, but that blasphemous material just has to go." "I'm all for freedom of speech, but that sexist material just has to go."

Someone1234 11y ago
Freedom of speech doesn't extend to other's rights being infringed. Bullying, harassment, and abuse aren't covered under freedom of speech. Your examples don't apply. It would be more akin to: "I'm all for freedom of speech, why can't I shout racist expletives at black strangers in the street?" "I'm all for freedom of speech, why can't I send people abusive messages online?" "I'm all for freedom of speech, I should be allowed to take photos of people going about their daily business, then encourage a bunch of my friends to be abusive towards that person." Do you think it is ok to walk down the street and shout abuse at people? If not, then why it is ok online? Or is it only ok when thousands of people shout abuse at one individual rather than one on one abuse?
- tanderson92 11y ago
  > "I'm all for freedom of speech, why can't I shout racist expletives at black strangers in the street?" What right of others' does that infringe? In general I recommend Ken White's writings on hate speech and the 1st amendment: http://popehat.com/2015/05/19/how-to-spot-and-critique-censorship-tropes-in-the-medias-coverage-of-free-speech-controversies/ http://popehat.com/2015/05/19/how-to-spot-and-critique-censo... But anyway, none of this of course applies to the reddit example since reddit is a private entity which can do as it sees fit.
- quadratini 11y ago
  There's no right not to be offended
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago
  You are confusing 'OK' with 'has the right'. I do believe people have such a right.

Someone1234 11y ago

Freedom of speech doesn't extend to other's rights being infringed. Bullying, harassment, and abuse aren't covered under freedom of speech. Your examples don't apply. It would be more akin to: "I'm all for freedom of speech, why can't I shout racist expletives at black strangers in the street?" "I'm all for freedom of speech, why can't I send people abusive messages online?" "I'm all for freedom of speech, I should be allowed to take photos of people going about their daily business, then encourage a bunch of my friends to be abusive towards that person." Do you think it is ok to walk down the street and shout abuse at people? If not, then why it is ok online? Or is it only ok when thousands of people shout abuse at one individual rather than one on one abuse?

tanderson92 11y ago
> "I'm all for freedom of speech, why can't I shout racist expletives at black strangers in the street?" What right of others' does that infringe? In general I recommend Ken White's writings on hate speech and the 1st amendment: http://popehat.com/2015/05/19/how-to-spot-and-critique-censorship-tropes-in-the-medias-coverage-of-free-speech-controversies/ http://popehat.com/2015/05/19/how-to-spot-and-critique-censo... But anyway, none of this of course applies to the reddit example since reddit is a private entity which can do as it sees fit.
quadratini 11y ago
There's no right not to be offended
Lawtonfogle 11y ago
You are confusing 'OK' with 'has the right'. I do believe people have such a right.