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No, RIM failed because government, military, enterprise, and business users are also normal consumers when not working. Sure, they had great messaging, but appl

No, RIM failed because government, military, enterprise, and business users are also normal consumers when not working. Sure, they had great messaging, but apple and google had decent messaging with web browsers, games, and applications

raverbashing 11y ago
Exactly this The reason MS made sure you could Windows at home "for free" is that it would carry to the business world (where the money is). I find it very hard to remember something that went from business to the home market successfully. Nobody wants their clunky office app/device to be used at home, what they want is to use their consumer app/device on the office which is usually better and easier to use.
- stephengillie 11y ago
  > I find it very hard to remember something that went from business to the home market successfully. The Personal Computer. Remember that mainframe you have at work that can crunch right thru spreadsheet numbers? Now you can have that same convenience at home. And this one can play Frogger too.
  - raverbashing 11y ago
    A Personal Computer (which started with the Apple I/II and after that to work, with IBM) is different from a Mainframe
    - stephengillie 11y ago
      Yeah, it's a personal mainframe. That's how they were marketed - it does the same things, but it's small enough to have in your home.
bedhead 11y ago
Not only this, but people became addicted to their phones. Use of one's phone now comes in first place, right ahead of sex, of things people couldn't live without, according to surveys. So people cared deeply about the phones they were using, unlike say when a company issues you a laptop.
rhino369 11y ago
This plus Bring Your Own Device enterprise plans. Nobody wants two different phones to carry around. Enterprise/business is merging with consumer phones. Their mistake was not getting into the enterprise app market for iOS and Android. They still could since the software sort of sucks still (or maybe my firm is cheap).

raverbashing 11y ago

Exactly this The reason MS made sure you could Windows at home "for free" is that it would carry to the business world (where the money is). I find it very hard to remember something that went from business to the home market successfully. Nobody wants their clunky office app/device to be used at home, what they want is to use their consumer app/device on the office which is usually better and easier to use.

stephengillie 11y ago
> I find it very hard to remember something that went from business to the home market successfully. The Personal Computer. Remember that mainframe you have at work that can crunch right thru spreadsheet numbers? Now you can have that same convenience at home. And this one can play Frogger too.
- raverbashing 11y ago
  A Personal Computer (which started with the Apple I/II and after that to work, with IBM) is different from a Mainframe
  - stephengillie 11y ago
    Yeah, it's a personal mainframe. That's how they were marketed - it does the same things, but it's small enough to have in your home.

bedhead 11y ago

Not only this, but people became addicted to their phones. Use of one's phone now comes in first place, right ahead of sex, of things people couldn't live without, according to surveys. So people cared deeply about the phones they were using, unlike say when a company issues you a laptop.

rhino369 11y ago

This plus Bring Your Own Device enterprise plans. Nobody wants two different phones to carry around. Enterprise/business is merging with consumer phones. Their mistake was not getting into the enterprise app market for iOS and Android. They still could since the software sort of sucks still (or maybe my firm is cheap).