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To be fair, as an ex-Nottingham resident, putting a CCTV camera up made life better for us. There were crack whores jacking up on heroin on my doorstep because

To be fair, as an ex-Nottingham resident, putting a CCTV camera up made life better for us. There were crack whores jacking up on heroin on my doorstep because there was a light there. Eventually I took the bulb out. Mapperley Road for reference. There were even crack whores on Google Street View on there for a couple of years...

mattmanser 11y ago
Mapperley Road leading to St. Anns, one of the worst council estates in England? So not that surprising. Also Mapperley Road leads onto Forest Road East, which at least used to be a notorious red light district and always have really skanky prostitutes hanging out on it. You lived on a really bad street. I lived 10 minutes down the road from you about 8 years ago, Zulla road. That area was really nice, although they'd recently finished a big campaign to stop robberies in the area due to, you guessed it, St Ann's residents. I really don't think one extreme problem area should be compared to a restaurant in Hockley where all the hipsters hang out.
- wumbernang 11y ago
  Indeed. This was in in early 00's for ref. I think it should be compared. Hockley is right at the bottom of "Wells Road" at the arse end of St Annes and was a notorious shit hole in the early 00s. Genuinely surprised they managed to clean the place up. Still glad I escaped.
killerpopiller 11y ago
it's sad that the solution for this society problems are cameras in your place. that you are thankfull for this total surveillance is fucked up. I hope UK leaves EU soon. it is a rotten place and we should prevent it's dystopian development to spread.
- wumbernang 11y ago
  We are indeed a rotten place but its not because of CCTV and surveillance. This is just a symptom of deeper problems in society.
- mercurial 11y ago
  The EU have nothing to do with that. Hell, I don't think even the foaming-at-the-mouth UKIP eurosceptics try to claim the UK turned into a surveillance society due to the EU. Neither did the EU ask the UK to lead the global surveillance efforts in Europe through GCHQ. Not to mention the fact that it is David Cameron himself who is trying to get out of the EU's human rights framework.
  - jon-wood 11y ago
    I may be wrong, but I read GP as being a citizen of some other EU country wanting rid of the UK. And I can hardly blame them, even as a UK citizen. Our government shows an utter disdain for Europe, mostly so that they can use it as yet another bogeyman to distract people from everything they're doing.
    - mercurial 11y ago
      Oh, indeed, this makes sense. Well, if that makes you feel better, most EU countries seem to be on the same nefarious track when it comes to global surveillance, and I don't see this kind of cooperation change in the future, whether or not there is a Brexit.
- ionised 11y ago
  The EU is the only thing stopping the UK surveillance state becoming even worse.
- andygates 11y ago
  That's not a solution, it just moves the problem along. Actually, if you define the solution narrowly as "undesirables on my doorstep" I suppose it is a solution; but since the wider problem is resolved by reducing the pool of undesirables for any doorsteps, only in the very narrowest sense.

mattmanser 11y ago

Mapperley Road leading to St. Anns, one of the worst council estates in England? So not that surprising. Also Mapperley Road leads onto Forest Road East, which at least used to be a notorious red light district and always have really skanky prostitutes hanging out on it. You lived on a really bad street. I lived 10 minutes down the road from you about 8 years ago, Zulla road. That area was really nice, although they'd recently finished a big campaign to stop robberies in the area due to, you guessed it, St Ann's residents. I really don't think one extreme problem area should be compared to a restaurant in Hockley where all the hipsters hang out.

wumbernang 11y ago
Indeed. This was in in early 00's for ref. I think it should be compared. Hockley is right at the bottom of "Wells Road" at the arse end of St Annes and was a notorious shit hole in the early 00s. Genuinely surprised they managed to clean the place up. Still glad I escaped.

killerpopiller 11y ago

it's sad that the solution for this society problems are cameras in your place. that you are thankfull for this total surveillance is fucked up. I hope UK leaves EU soon. it is a rotten place and we should prevent it's dystopian development to spread.

wumbernang 11y ago
We are indeed a rotten place but its not because of CCTV and surveillance. This is just a symptom of deeper problems in society.
mercurial 11y ago
The EU have nothing to do with that. Hell, I don't think even the foaming-at-the-mouth UKIP eurosceptics try to claim the UK turned into a surveillance society due to the EU. Neither did the EU ask the UK to lead the global surveillance efforts in Europe through GCHQ. Not to mention the fact that it is David Cameron himself who is trying to get out of the EU's human rights framework.
- jon-wood 11y ago
  I may be wrong, but I read GP as being a citizen of some other EU country wanting rid of the UK. And I can hardly blame them, even as a UK citizen. Our government shows an utter disdain for Europe, mostly so that they can use it as yet another bogeyman to distract people from everything they're doing.
  - mercurial 11y ago
    Oh, indeed, this makes sense. Well, if that makes you feel better, most EU countries seem to be on the same nefarious track when it comes to global surveillance, and I don't see this kind of cooperation change in the future, whether or not there is a Brexit.
ionised 11y ago
The EU is the only thing stopping the UK surveillance state becoming even worse.
andygates 11y ago
That's not a solution, it just moves the problem along. Actually, if you define the solution narrowly as "undesirables on my doorstep" I suppose it is a solution; but since the wider problem is resolved by reducing the pool of undesirables for any doorsteps, only in the very narrowest sense.