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Yes, I've read those and all the others. I don't see your point. Did I say that I know more about it than them? No. Did I say that I know more about it than you

Yes, I've read those and all the others. I don't see your point. Did I say that I know more about it than them? No. Did I say that I know more about it than you? Yes. Should you get all defensive about that? No. These things happen. Did I say that tourism was some kind of magic bullet? No. I'm saying that the place is not some kind of vast, elaborate stage-show being run for the purpose of giving tourists something to look at. That's what I said. I wish more North Korean apologists understood this. To be fair, you didn't actually call me an apologist (which is nice because that's a astonishingly offensive thing to call someone). I think I was pretty clear in my earlier comments - grotesque, deprivation, malnutrition and so on. I have said here before that the continuing existence of the nation is a stain on the soul of humanity. There is a huge difference between presenting fact, and being an apologist.

yequalsx 11y ago
What's offensive is that you had no moral problem giving money to such a brutal and repressive regime while believing said regime is a stain on the soul of humanity. you talked, in another post on here, that one can bicycle in North Korea or run in the Pyonyang marathon. Those are great things to do in a country that is a stain on the soul of humanity. Giving money to this regime makes you part of the problem.
- comrade1 11y ago
  And yet people pay taxes to the u.s., a brutal and desparate country where the state regularly tortures people in prison, puts its citizens to death innocent or guilty, and sponsors some of the worse terrorists on the planet. The u.s. has far more affect than nk when it comes to misery.