You're pointing me to the essay, which was written by Russ Nelson. I couldn't find any commentary by ESR on the essay, just on the reaction to the essay. > My

You're pointing me to the essay, which was written by Russ Nelson. I couldn't find any commentary by ESR on the essay, just on the reaction to the essay. > My point is that ESR is not a trustworthy source of information. Then the word to use for that is "untrustworthy". The word you've actually been using is "racist". Rationalwiki is not a trustworthy source of information. That's not something I can provide a firm citation for, so I don't expect you to start ignoring the place, but personally I try not to believe anything it says without doing the research myself. (And on the subject of ESR, I try not to believe anything anyone says without doing the research myself.) I don't remember the details of ESR on climategate, and don't particularly care to look it up.[1] I do remember this, however: > ESR wrote a blog post suggesting that the Haitian people really did summon up the Voudon god Ogun to kill off all the white Frenchmen. and it's not a fair description. ESR suggested that the Haitians really did attempt to summon Ogun. He suggested that the ritual was valuable for physchological reasons. He did not suggest that they succeeded in summoning Ogun. [1] There's a failure mode that I sometimes fall into, where I don't care about an object-level discussion, but weigh in on the meta-level, because the meta-level is more interesting to me. Then I get sucked in to the object-level. I'm trying not to do that here.