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In most of America, we don't have a ridid class system. At least where I grew up, how much money you had, and what clothes you wore meant absolutely nothing.
by marincounty 11y ago
In most of America, we don't have a ridid class system.
At least where I grew up, how much money you had, and what clothes you wore meant absolutely nothing. In fact, it often worked against you if you happened to have rich parents--the whole spolied rich kid thing.
As adults, I guess Americans start to stereotype, but we don't have hard and fast demarcations between low class and upper class.
I'm not saying Americans aren't racists, but the whole class thing was never a big deal where I grew up, or I didn't notice it?
I have noticed a bit of a change lately, but it's still not a ridid system.
I have never heard a guy talk about the economic class a women fits into--Never! They find that special person and will do anything to win them over. In other words, they find that person they find Perfect, and want a relationship--period. (The're usually rejected, but that's another topic.) I have seen women judge people on how much money they come from, but it's not as strong as in other countries, and it usually/always comes from jealousy. Yes, looks do matter. It's a commodity, especially when you are younger. How much money you have doesn't come into the picture until later in life, but that's for men. A pretty, caring female is not judged on how much money she makes. In a lot of circles, it might even work against her? Some of you will call me a sexist over that statement, but it's just something I have noticed. A rich guy who looks/acts like Donald Trump will get his pick. A rich women does not get the same perks. Yes--it's wrong, but I can care less over the happiness of the wealthy. (There I go, I am using wealthy as a demarcation of class? Yes, in American we do talk about the wealthy, and 1 percenter's, but we don't associated it with class, morals, manners, or intelligence. (Donald Trump is a perfect example of a "upper class" person in America. It just doesn't work?)
Over the years, I have sat watched movies/series about the upper classes(usually in Great Britain), and always found them hilarious. I know it's because we don't have a monarchy--thank goodness--personally I couldn't stomach all that pomposity, and family lineage b.s..
(This is coming from a 40 someting, who's always lived in liberal communities.) I don't want to argue--I never even come back to posts. I hope I didn't offend anyone concerning their perceived class?)
- allendoerfer 11y agoEven if you will not answer me, I want to state, that I think your points a highly subjective and I find all of them questionable. The inherent optimism to rise up by your own does not make a society classless. I can not think of a western country that is as extremely divided as America. No limit at the top, no limit at the bottom. People do not talk about the class of people they meet, because the mostly meet people of their own class in the first place. You go to similar schools, attend similar colleges and live in similar neighbourhoods. Europe has its nouveau rich, that do not really belong to the 1%, too, the same way, that America has its aristocrats, too. I mean, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama and now Bush vs. Clinton again?!?
- o0-0o 11y agoI think if you dig deeper you'll see that the only somewhat aristocratic family in your statement are the Bushes. The Clinton's are just power hungry, ugly, bourgeois. The Obama's are just a vessel for many things. Otherwise, spot on, and fantabulous analogy about the limitless top and bottom!
- TheCoelacanth 11y agoThe Kennedy's would be a better example of an aristocratic family than the Clinton's.
- wolfgke 11y ago> I have never heard a guy talk about the economic class a women fits into--Never! They find that special person and will do anything to win them over. In other words, they find that person they find Perfect, and want a relationship--period. Being German I think differently about this topic. For finding prospective partners you also don't talk about money (that is hardly ever done in Germany - kind of a social taboo), but you talk a lot about education (indirectly you get from which class the other person is and/or how much money they will probably make in the future). You increase your chances very much if you have some kind of academic education that the other one respects (what kind of this is, is a really complicated game, but tendencies are: medicine - great, mathematics - good (at least if you are still sociable; great if you have a PhD), humanities - it's complicated ;-( , female engineer or computer scientist - great). Nearly all of the male PhD students in mathematics at the same floor as me that are married, are married to a female medicine student. I don't consider this as a coincidence. The same holds for other "educational" topics, say preferred taste of music (if you want to move up, it's surely not bad to like classical music) or whether you play(ed) a musical instrument (good sign if both did) (which is also considered as a kind of education in Germany). So, yes, in Germany you don't talk about class, but by talking about education you get lots of cues.
- mcphage 11y ago> but the whole class thing was never a big deal where I grew up, or I didn't notice it? You didn't notice.