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I was going to write a diatribe about how my sister-in-law manages to get a three bedroom semi in Berkshire in the UK, has a nice 60" television and an iphone 6

I was going to write a diatribe about how my sister-in-law manages to get a three bedroom semi in Berkshire in the UK, has a nice 60" television and an iphone 6 and hasn't worked a day since 1998 nor has her numerous partners, her physically disabled 15 year old son (who incidentally managed to scale a 7 foot tall wall because he couldn't be bothered to walk around the house to go and buy cigarettes), sitting there with her friends last week all they discussed was how to screw more things out of the state whilst bathing in a cloud of smoke in the garden and simultaneously annoying their neighbours with loud garage music.. ...but I'm sure the logic of this article explains that... Actually they're not stupid. They're ruthless in some areas and its hard for me to sit there a a relative and not explode violently at them. This post is somewhat an experiment however as reddit's UK population seems to think that this class of person doesn't exist and would happily downvote people off the internet for even suggesting it, labelling you as a tory supporter and general inhuman.

laichzeit0 11y ago
> This post is somewhat an experiment however as reddit's UK population seems to think that this class of person doesn't exist and would happily downvote people off the internet for even suggesting it, labelling you as a tory supporter and general inhuman. You know what, fuck 'em. You're not alone, and the vast majority of people are not vocal. The vocal people are always a small minority on either side of the spectrum. Fuck 'em.
- wumbernang 11y ago
  Glad to hear that there are people who think the same.
littletimmy 11y ago
What so wrong about that? She doesn't want to work. Her choice. Get over your puritanical veneration for work. She is wise to have found a way to not work and spend her time in leisure.
- wumbernang 11y ago
  What is so wrong: It's dishonest. Dishonest as she has built her life on a web of lies at the extreme cost of others. Everything she owns is on credit and has no intention of paying for it for example. If she's short of cash, her solution is to find someone to fuck and get another kid to pay the bills. She has three children. The oldest is disabled but not and has two criminal records already. The middle one has been kicked out of two schools. And she has a social worker for the third one. Making a career out of dishonesty isn't acceptable morally. Neither is leaving this legacy. For ref, I'm not for work entirely and as someone who automates people out of it, I understand that there isn't likely to be enough work to go around one day. Also I have three children and actually look after them.
  - sgift 11y ago
    > Making a career out of dishonesty isn't acceptable morally. Neither is leaving this legacy. That's good to hear, so you dislike our current society, especially the modern work environment? Good for you, I hope more people wise up. I would love to hear your suggestions for an alternative work enivronment and a better society. (Hint: Sarcasm)
    - wumbernang 11y ago
      Star trek has all the answers. (Hint: Facetious :)
  - littletimmy 11y ago
    No, that is presupposing that the way the system works is honest and just. I don't agree with that at all. The earth is bountiful enough for a person to live off it without working (hunter-gatherer). Is it her fault that she was born at a time when all land and productive capacity has been appropriated by those who came before? Is it somehow noble for her to sell her body into labor to work in a society that can feed all without making her into a wage slave? "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence becomes an act of rebellion." - Albert Camus
toyg 11y ago
> reddit's Forgot to change website after copypasting ? Anyway, your sister-in-law (who's such a bad person, you let your brother marry her -- maybe your bro is not a saint either, is he? But women make for better targets) is actually quite savvy. Thing is, really, that western society is built by people of privilege tricking us schmucks into breaking our backs for them. She's saying no to all that hypocrisy from first principles. I honestly envy her courage.
- wumbernang 11y ago
  No I'm comparing the culture here and there. I'm interested to see if a more technically inclined forum has a different set of morals and work ethics. She is my wife's sister for reference. You're probably right about being savvy. Interesting perspective.
ZeroGravitas 11y ago
No-one else knows your sister-in-law. The only info we've been given by you is that she's not worked since she had a disabled son 15 years ago. And that they both smoke cigarettes (a heavily marketed, addictive drug that many people of all classes/temperaments still use today). They both may well be genuinely more evil than Hitler, but you've hardly presented an airtight case on this and in fact are likely to have inspired sympathy for the targets of your rage. Maybe that's why random strangers on the internet label you as a "tory supporter and general inhuman".

laichzeit0 11y ago

> This post is somewhat an experiment however as reddit's UK population seems to think that this class of person doesn't exist and would happily downvote people off the internet for even suggesting it, labelling you as a tory supporter and general inhuman. You know what, fuck 'em. You're not alone, and the vast majority of people are not vocal. The vocal people are always a small minority on either side of the spectrum. Fuck 'em.

wumbernang 11y ago
Glad to hear that there are people who think the same.

littletimmy 11y ago

What so wrong about that? She doesn't want to work. Her choice. Get over your puritanical veneration for work. She is wise to have found a way to not work and spend her time in leisure.

wumbernang 11y ago
What is so wrong: It's dishonest. Dishonest as she has built her life on a web of lies at the extreme cost of others. Everything she owns is on credit and has no intention of paying for it for example. If she's short of cash, her solution is to find someone to fuck and get another kid to pay the bills. She has three children. The oldest is disabled but not and has two criminal records already. The middle one has been kicked out of two schools. And she has a social worker for the third one. Making a career out of dishonesty isn't acceptable morally. Neither is leaving this legacy. For ref, I'm not for work entirely and as someone who automates people out of it, I understand that there isn't likely to be enough work to go around one day. Also I have three children and actually look after them.
- sgift 11y ago
  > Making a career out of dishonesty isn't acceptable morally. Neither is leaving this legacy. That's good to hear, so you dislike our current society, especially the modern work environment? Good for you, I hope more people wise up. I would love to hear your suggestions for an alternative work enivronment and a better society. (Hint: Sarcasm)
  - wumbernang 11y ago
    Star trek has all the answers. (Hint: Facetious :)
- littletimmy 11y ago
  No, that is presupposing that the way the system works is honest and just. I don't agree with that at all. The earth is bountiful enough for a person to live off it without working (hunter-gatherer). Is it her fault that she was born at a time when all land and productive capacity has been appropriated by those who came before? Is it somehow noble for her to sell her body into labor to work in a society that can feed all without making her into a wage slave? "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence becomes an act of rebellion." - Albert Camus

toyg 11y ago

> reddit's Forgot to change website after copypasting ? Anyway, your sister-in-law (who's such a bad person, you let your brother marry her -- maybe your bro is not a saint either, is he? But women make for better targets) is actually quite savvy. Thing is, really, that western society is built by people of privilege tricking us schmucks into breaking our backs for them. She's saying no to all that hypocrisy from first principles. I honestly envy her courage.

wumbernang 11y ago
No I'm comparing the culture here and there. I'm interested to see if a more technically inclined forum has a different set of morals and work ethics. She is my wife's sister for reference. You're probably right about being savvy. Interesting perspective.

ZeroGravitas 11y ago

No-one else knows your sister-in-law. The only info we've been given by you is that she's not worked since she had a disabled son 15 years ago. And that they both smoke cigarettes (a heavily marketed, addictive drug that many people of all classes/temperaments still use today). They both may well be genuinely more evil than Hitler, but you've hardly presented an airtight case on this and in fact are likely to have inspired sympathy for the targets of your rage. Maybe that's why random strangers on the internet label you as a "tory supporter and general inhuman".