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A common problem is that the use of staffing firms - recruiters - has led to the common requirement that new hires "hit the ground running" because employers do

A common problem is that the use of staffing firms - recruiters - has led to the common requirement that new hires "hit the ground running" because employers don't want to train someone after paying a recruiter $30,000.00 to find them. No one seems to believe that I have skills that I've learned from a book, and by writing code on my own, so it doesn't help to invest in my own training. There are many reasons for the perceived - and yes it is only perceived - shortage of software developers. When I was starting out it was easy to find all the employers, just look up "computer programming" in the yellow pages. I'm working to index all the world's computer employers at http://www.warplife.com/jobs/computer/ http://www.warplife.com/jobs/computer/ It is just barely started but there are substantial listings for New York City, Seattle, Portland and San Francisco. I have many more written down that I have yet to post; I'm also working on some automated tools.

S4M 11y ago
> A common problem is that the use of staffing firms - recruiters - has led to the common requirement that new hires "hit the ground running" because employers don't want to train someone after paying a recruiter $30,000.00 to find them. It's also due to the fact that people tend to stay less time at their jobs. Companies don't want to wait 3 months for the new hires to pick up their tech stacks if they are going to leave after 2 years. Why people are less loyal is another story, and I am not sure the employees are the ones who are the most guilty there.
- MichaelCrawford 11y ago
  here we have a chicken and egg problem. It's not that people tend to stay less in general, but that I personally regard the entire industry as fundamentally corrupt, so I don't really feel the need to stay at any particular company any longer than I really have to to fulfill my own personal requirement. However among my personal requirements is that despite being quite shy and quiet I enjoy the company of others. That's why when I am self-employed - as I am now - I commonly work at wifi spots rather than from home. Working Software of Santa Cruz, California paid me less than half of what I could readily have commanded anywhere else but even so I stayed with them longer than any other employer because those people were like family to me.

S4M 11y ago

> A common problem is that the use of staffing firms - recruiters - has led to the common requirement that new hires "hit the ground running" because employers don't want to train someone after paying a recruiter $30,000.00 to find them. It's also due to the fact that people tend to stay less time at their jobs. Companies don't want to wait 3 months for the new hires to pick up their tech stacks if they are going to leave after 2 years. Why people are less loyal is another story, and I am not sure the employees are the ones who are the most guilty there.

MichaelCrawford 11y ago
here we have a chicken and egg problem. It's not that people tend to stay less in general, but that I personally regard the entire industry as fundamentally corrupt, so I don't really feel the need to stay at any particular company any longer than I really have to to fulfill my own personal requirement. However among my personal requirements is that despite being quite shy and quiet I enjoy the company of others. That's why when I am self-employed - as I am now - I commonly work at wifi spots rather than from home. Working Software of Santa Cruz, California paid me less than half of what I could readily have commanded anywhere else but even so I stayed with them longer than any other employer because those people were like family to me.