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Update to Our Customers on ADP

17 points by mr-ron 11y ago

serve_yay 11y ago
I think I'm glad I don't have to deal with either of these organizations.
- bdcravens 11y ago
  I agree. Honestly, I knew little about the company until now, and this spat is what I'll remember.
- ljk 11y ago
  another zenefits incident not too long ago http://www.businessinsider.com/zenefits-ceo-rescinds-job-offer-on-quora-2015-5 http://www.businessinsider.com/zenefits-ceo-rescinds-job-off...
HongQiGong 11y ago
Wow. Are they actually talking to each other privately? Or just through this public back-and-forth?
x0x0 11y ago
Does anyone actually believe the disingenuous surprise of startups when larger companies don't want to help the startups take their business? Viz every company who wants to scrape craiglist.
- Sleaker 11y ago
  scraping content off websites, and automating a data entry process are two very different things.
  - bdcravens 11y ago
    Perhaps, but at the end of the day, you're leveraging someone else's product in both cases. Perhaps a better example would be if someone automated the submission of Craigslist ads and CL blocked it.
    - Sleaker 11y ago
      I still think there's a distinct difference between providing automated services on behalf of an already registered customer to make their experience more seamless and prevent errors. And posting automated Ads to CL.
lewisl9029 11y ago
Other side of the story: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9686175 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9686175 It sounds like Zenefits didn't do their due diligence in building ADP integration through official channels (according to the pdf they didn't even attempt to contact ADP for official integration options) and decided to just scrape information off the ADP portal by asking their customers for admin access (a security nightmare waiting to happen)... I find it especially distasteful that they're now playing victim and trying to spin things around in their favor by using marketing and social media to gain support for their questionable practices.

17 points by mr-ron 11y ago

serve_yay 11y ago

I think I'm glad I don't have to deal with either of these organizations.

bdcravens 11y ago
I agree. Honestly, I knew little about the company until now, and this spat is what I'll remember.
ljk 11y ago
another zenefits incident not too long ago http://www.businessinsider.com/zenefits-ceo-rescinds-job-offer-on-quora-2015-5 http://www.businessinsider.com/zenefits-ceo-rescinds-job-off...

HongQiGong 11y ago

Wow. Are they actually talking to each other privately? Or just through this public back-and-forth?

x0x0 11y ago

Does anyone actually believe the disingenuous surprise of startups when larger companies don't want to help the startups take their business? Viz every company who wants to scrape craiglist.

Sleaker 11y ago
scraping content off websites, and automating a data entry process are two very different things.
- bdcravens 11y ago
  Perhaps, but at the end of the day, you're leveraging someone else's product in both cases. Perhaps a better example would be if someone automated the submission of Craigslist ads and CL blocked it.
  - Sleaker 11y ago
    I still think there's a distinct difference between providing automated services on behalf of an already registered customer to make their experience more seamless and prevent errors. And posting automated Ads to CL.

lewisl9029 11y ago

Other side of the story: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9686175 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9686175 It sounds like Zenefits didn't do their due diligence in building ADP integration through official channels (according to the pdf they didn't even attempt to contact ADP for official integration options) and decided to just scrape information off the ADP portal by asking their customers for admin access (a security nightmare waiting to happen)... I find it especially distasteful that they're now playing victim and trying to spin things around in their favor by using marketing and social media to gain support for their questionable practices.