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i posted this yesterday, but the top three reasons i didn't go with zenefits (not that it matters because apparently they are taking over the world): 1. sales

i posted this yesterday, but the top three reasons i didn't go with zenefits (not that it matters because apparently they are taking over the world): 1. sales people were pushy dickheads that implied i was wasting their time by re-scheduling their demo due to emergency client issues, when i am their prime audience - an overworked, underpaid, understaffed startup founder. 2. they couldn't articulate how they integrate with my payroll service. it was a bunch of hand waving and "trust us". unfortunately i know how technology works and i'm not going to "trust" anyone unless they have a well defined solution. had i known i was supposed to give them my administrator login information, it would have been a non-starter anyway. 3. the fact that their business model was basically to take business from existing insurance brokers seemed a little lame to me. why can't i just pay for your services?

obornii 11y ago
1. OK - I agree. 2. So - did you get mint.com to tell you how they integrated with your bank(s) ? Did your local bank tell you, for that matter, how they did background searches on their staff ? 3. You clearly don't manage a company with issues like COBRA, insurance, or payroll. I almost didn't get past #1, but #2 and #3 were non-issues. Why? Because when you manage a business, you have to focus on your core business: So either pay to outsource HR (6K month, thats a salary right there), risk noncompliance with a broker, or go with Zenefits and worry about under-the-bed monsters that do not exist under #2-#3.
- beachstartup 11y ago
  every single point you've made is wrong.
- beachstartup 11y ago
  i think the only thing that's clear here is you don't actually run a business, because you're pretty much wrong, or make incorrect assumptions, on every single point. for example: i do know the background-check procedures my bank uses on its employees. it's in the fucking brochure they give you when you open a commercial account.

obornii 11y ago

1. OK - I agree. 2. So - did you get mint.com to tell you how they integrated with your bank(s) ? Did your local bank tell you, for that matter, how they did background searches on their staff ? 3. You clearly don't manage a company with issues like COBRA, insurance, or payroll. I almost didn't get past #1, but #2 and #3 were non-issues. Why? Because when you manage a business, you have to focus on your core business: So either pay to outsource HR (6K month, thats a salary right there), risk noncompliance with a broker, or go with Zenefits and worry about under-the-bed monsters that do not exist under #2-#3.

beachstartup 11y ago
every single point you've made is wrong.
beachstartup 11y ago
i think the only thing that's clear here is you don't actually run a business, because you're pretty much wrong, or make incorrect assumptions, on every single point. for example: i do know the background-check procedures my bank uses on its employees. it's in the fucking brochure they give you when you open a commercial account.