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No, people are not mean to him because he has a mental disorder. People are mean to him because he posts things like this: A nigger respects complicated progra

No, people are not mean to him because he has a mental disorder. People are mean to him because he posts things like this: A nigger respects complicated programs. The more complicated the more the little niggers respect it. Ask a nigger to design a operating system task scheduler! It's hilarious watching a nigger make priority schedulers. I make my programs simple. I have an electrical engineering degree. I am a master of differential equations. Physics>Engineer>Computer Science> Psychology. The nigger standard model is 20 pages instead of two and it's really really complicated. When a computer scientist builds something he says, "What all features might we possibly need?" When I design I make it as simple as possible. Hello world joke: http://www.infiltec.com/j-h-wrld.htm http://www.infiltec.com/j-h-wrld.htm Look at what the nigger did to graphic files formats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP_file_format http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP_file_format Sound file formats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV Any nigger can make it complicated. A nigger makes it as complicated as possible. I am a genius. I make it simple.

aaronem 11y ago
And you think he posts things like that because he's sane?
- danellis 11y ago
  There are plenty of people who are not "sane" who don't hold and espouse those opinions, and I doubt anyone would take such umbrage with those people, so it's unreasonable and disingenuous to suggest that people are "mean to him because he has a mental disorder".
  - aaronem 11y ago
    Do you really think the quote you posted has the slightest thing to do with race? I realize that in it he repeatedly uses a very bad word, but, bad as it may be, it is merely a word; I should like to hope some allowance might be made for the very plain fact that the man's mind isn't right, to say nothing of the minor point that, allowing for differences in phrasing and style, even a luminary like Paul Graham might well make the very same argument about unnecessary complexity. Then again, when even a luminary like Paul Graham has to be careful about what he can and can't say [1], I suppose it's not too surprising that people should care more about the style of Mr. Davis's remarks than about their substance. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html
    - danellis 11y ago
      If someone you didn't know were posting these things as, say, YouTube comments, it would still be immediately apparent that their "mind isn't right", as you put it, but of course it would be perfectly acceptable to write them off. The allowance you're making is really because he's inside the group that HN readers have an interest in. If he wasn't a programmer, he would be just another religious nut to you.
      - aaronem 11y ago
        You presume a hell of a lot, don't you?
  - A_COMPUTER 11y ago
    I can't tell if you're saying "people shouldn't have to hear racism around them even if the person is mentally ill" (so shadowban it or whatever) or if you're saying "mental illness is not the reason that person's racist" (so I am free to pass moral judgment on them.)
    - danellis 11y ago
      Neither. I'm saying that people are responding to the words in his posts, rather than the underlying cause of those words. They're not saying, "Ugh, a mentally ill person, hate", they're saying "Wow, that's pretty offensive, hate". In contrast, when the artwork of a schizophrenic gets posted (there's a particular one that pops up from time to time), people mostly respond with fascination.
      - aaronem 11y ago
        But that's just the point. The words in question aren't any more charged with racialist intent than would be an equivalent work by the same person in a nonverbal medium, but one of those words in particular is linked to a reflex response called "offense", which apparently is so exceptional as to preclude any further analysis whatsoever even in people who don't fall within the group for whom the reflex-trigger word is a slur, and who therefore by definition cannot be insulted by its use. I don't know, maybe it's just me. But when I see a lot of different people who've all apparently been trained to react identically and without thought or consideration to a given set of triggers, regardless of any context in which those triggers occur, it creeps me out just a little.
  - maxerickson 11y ago
    When you say the post is disingenuous, you are implying intent on the part of the poster. I don't see that (I don't disagree with your point that the characterization is inaccurate though). How literal is your meaning when you say "Wow, that's pretty offensive, hate" below? Because I think hatred directed at a bigot is sort of a not very fruitful response to bigotry. In that sense, people being nasty because someone is saying offensive things isn't a huge improvement over people being nasty because someone is mentally ill. I do see some need to deal with people that are being disruptive (whether intentionally or not), but I don't see much justification to do it with rancor.
MichaelGG 11y ago
What's your point? Just reading the WP entry on WAV seems to back him up; it wouldn't be too hard to beat it if you just want a simple PCM format. As for the racial slurs, they obviously are not racial in this context. Otherwise, perhaps he's a bit immodest or incorrect. OTOH, he's brighter than most so...
fierycatnet 11y ago
That account was made 5 months ago. I remember this guy from at least 2 years ago when his project got attention on Reddit. Is it really him with that 5 month old account? In any case, I don't know much about the guy. I just remember his posts being a little off... that might explain it but he is suffering from schizophrenia if I remember it correctly.
- serf 11y ago
  he makes new accounts regularly to get around bans/killed status.
angersock 11y ago
s/nigger/idiot/g There, I fixed it. Do try and use the brain God gave you.
- danellis 11y ago
  > I fixed it Really? You think that that change would make him likeable? > Do try and use the brain God gave you. Sorry, but I don't understand the purpose of that snarky comment. Do you disagree that the kind of post in the example I gave is why people are mean to him? It makes not a jot of difference that you "fixed" his post here (for whose benefit, I don't know), because he posts what he posts, and people read what he posts, and make their judgements based on that.
  - angersock 11y ago
    People are mean to him because people are rude jerks, and probably unlike Terry, have opted to be purposefully mean to somebody. It's really annoying to me to see people get so caught up in the phrasing of an otherwise intelligible statement (due to trigger words or blatant racism or whatever) that they can't respond to it on its own merits. Also, at this point, anybody who believes Terry is genuinely racist is obviously too incompetent to do research--it's pretty easy to find if you do any searching on the topic.
    - danellis 11y ago
      > People are mean to him because people are rude jerks Yes, but the issue was why people are mean to him (as in, what are they responding to?), not why people are mean in general. It's a fact of life that you will be judged on how you present yourself. And quite reasonably so -- you can't realistically expect that people are going to search the Internet for clues to every poster's mental health history before they form an opinion of them. That's simply not their responsibility. If at this point I were to call you something unpleasant, you would immediately form an opinion of me without doing any searching on the topic of my mental health. The evidence suggests you might even respond rudely.

aaronem 11y ago

And you think he posts things like that because he's sane?

danellis 11y ago
There are plenty of people who are not "sane" who don't hold and espouse those opinions, and I doubt anyone would take such umbrage with those people, so it's unreasonable and disingenuous to suggest that people are "mean to him because he has a mental disorder".
- aaronem 11y ago
  Do you really think the quote you posted has the slightest thing to do with race? I realize that in it he repeatedly uses a very bad word, but, bad as it may be, it is merely a word; I should like to hope some allowance might be made for the very plain fact that the man's mind isn't right, to say nothing of the minor point that, allowing for differences in phrasing and style, even a luminary like Paul Graham might well make the very same argument about unnecessary complexity. Then again, when even a luminary like Paul Graham has to be careful about what he can and can't say [1], I suppose it's not too surprising that people should care more about the style of Mr. Davis's remarks than about their substance. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html
  - danellis 11y ago
    If someone you didn't know were posting these things as, say, YouTube comments, it would still be immediately apparent that their "mind isn't right", as you put it, but of course it would be perfectly acceptable to write them off. The allowance you're making is really because he's inside the group that HN readers have an interest in. If he wasn't a programmer, he would be just another religious nut to you.
    - aaronem 11y ago
      You presume a hell of a lot, don't you?
- A_COMPUTER 11y ago
  I can't tell if you're saying "people shouldn't have to hear racism around them even if the person is mentally ill" (so shadowban it or whatever) or if you're saying "mental illness is not the reason that person's racist" (so I am free to pass moral judgment on them.)
  - danellis 11y ago
    Neither. I'm saying that people are responding to the words in his posts, rather than the underlying cause of those words. They're not saying, "Ugh, a mentally ill person, hate", they're saying "Wow, that's pretty offensive, hate". In contrast, when the artwork of a schizophrenic gets posted (there's a particular one that pops up from time to time), people mostly respond with fascination.
    - aaronem 11y ago
      But that's just the point. The words in question aren't any more charged with racialist intent than would be an equivalent work by the same person in a nonverbal medium, but one of those words in particular is linked to a reflex response called "offense", which apparently is so exceptional as to preclude any further analysis whatsoever even in people who don't fall within the group for whom the reflex-trigger word is a slur, and who therefore by definition cannot be insulted by its use. I don't know, maybe it's just me. But when I see a lot of different people who've all apparently been trained to react identically and without thought or consideration to a given set of triggers, regardless of any context in which those triggers occur, it creeps me out just a little.
- maxerickson 11y ago
  When you say the post is disingenuous, you are implying intent on the part of the poster. I don't see that (I don't disagree with your point that the characterization is inaccurate though). How literal is your meaning when you say "Wow, that's pretty offensive, hate" below? Because I think hatred directed at a bigot is sort of a not very fruitful response to bigotry. In that sense, people being nasty because someone is saying offensive things isn't a huge improvement over people being nasty because someone is mentally ill. I do see some need to deal with people that are being disruptive (whether intentionally or not), but I don't see much justification to do it with rancor.

MichaelGG 11y ago

What's your point? Just reading the WP entry on WAV seems to back him up; it wouldn't be too hard to beat it if you just want a simple PCM format. As for the racial slurs, they obviously are not racial in this context. Otherwise, perhaps he's a bit immodest or incorrect. OTOH, he's brighter than most so...

fierycatnet 11y ago

That account was made 5 months ago. I remember this guy from at least 2 years ago when his project got attention on Reddit. Is it really him with that 5 month old account? In any case, I don't know much about the guy. I just remember his posts being a little off... that might explain it but he is suffering from schizophrenia if I remember it correctly.

serf 11y ago
he makes new accounts regularly to get around bans/killed status.

angersock 11y ago

s/nigger/idiot/g There, I fixed it. Do try and use the brain God gave you.

danellis 11y ago
> I fixed it Really? You think that that change would make him likeable? > Do try and use the brain God gave you. Sorry, but I don't understand the purpose of that snarky comment. Do you disagree that the kind of post in the example I gave is why people are mean to him? It makes not a jot of difference that you "fixed" his post here (for whose benefit, I don't know), because he posts what he posts, and people read what he posts, and make their judgements based on that.
- angersock 11y ago
  People are mean to him because people are rude jerks, and probably unlike Terry, have opted to be purposefully mean to somebody. It's really annoying to me to see people get so caught up in the phrasing of an otherwise intelligible statement (due to trigger words or blatant racism or whatever) that they can't respond to it on its own merits. Also, at this point, anybody who believes Terry is genuinely racist is obviously too incompetent to do research--it's pretty easy to find if you do any searching on the topic.
  - danellis 11y ago
    > People are mean to him because people are rude jerks Yes, but the issue was why people are mean to him (as in, what are they responding to?), not why people are mean in general. It's a fact of life that you will be judged on how you present yourself. And quite reasonably so -- you can't realistically expect that people are going to search the Internet for clues to every poster's mental health history before they form an opinion of them. That's simply not their responsibility. If at this point I were to call you something unpleasant, you would immediately form an opinion of me without doing any searching on the topic of my mental health. The evidence suggests you might even respond rudely.